Alejandro,

    This is tres cool. If you combine this and the FractalPlant,
    then you have a multimedia into for a fractal movie ;-)

    BTW, please find attached a tweaked version so that MobVM
    will not bring up the Squeak window, it's annoying.

    The seventh (1 based) integer (savedWindowSize) was set to 0.

    Cheers,

    PhiHo.

 ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alejandro F. Reimondo" <aleReimondo at smalltalking.net>
To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
<squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: Mythical small kernel images?


> Hi all,
> > My next question is what can I do with them, how
>
> Well, you can play a tango...
> (win* and FFI requiered)
>
> Ale.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alejandro F. Reimondo" <aleReimondo at smalltalking.net>
> To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
> <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Mythical small kernel images?
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > > My next question is what can I do with them, how
> > > do I interact with them, I drop them on
> > > a Squeak VM it works but then do we have
> > > to specify parameter and get
> > > value....
> >
> > We have implemented consode I/O...
> > We also has implemented an image (aprox 40kb)
> >  that get a web page given an URL (using WinInet
> >  because Squeak sockets implementation
> >  is very complex).
> > They ONLY do simple things but we plan to expand the framework to
support
> > dynamic exchange with parents (nutrition from parents) when needed.
> > It is a work in progress that we have from a long time in Smalltalking
(we
> > also advocates to do a social activities for the community, here in
> > Argentina).
> >
> > > Ale this is ***really*** exciting. Impressive. If we could rebuild
> > > Squeak on top of such a mini
> > > image this would be ****really**** good. Or a kind of dream :).
> > >
> > > Diego what was the paper you talked about?
> >
> > I think that it can't be very difficult to build a mechanism
> >  to support dynamic embedding of mini-images, but provably it must be
> > supported by primitives (this will require VM changes :-( ).
> >
> > cheers,
> > Ale.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephane Ducasse" <ducasse at iam.unibe.ch>
> > To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
> > <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: Mythical small kernel images?
> >
> >
> > > Thanks
> > > this was so small that I missed them. Now I get them.
> > > My next question is what can I do with them, how do I interact with
> > > them, I drop them on
> > > a Squeak VM it works but then do we have to specify parameter and get
> > > value....
> > >
> > >
> > > Ale this is ***really*** exciting. Impressive. If we could rebuild
> > > Squeak on top of such a mini
> > > image this would be ****really**** good. Or a kind of dream :).
> > >
> > > Diego what was the paper you talked about?
> > >
> > > Stef
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 10:14 PM,
> > > diegogomezdeck at consultar.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Alejandro Reimondo has atached them in an email.  You can find them
at
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/squeak/message/55613
> > > >
> > > > Diego
> > > >
> > > >> Diego
> > > >>
> > > >> I did not see this mini image where can I find it?
> > > >>
> > > >> Stef
> > > >>
> > > >> On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 09:45 PM,
> > > >> diegogomezdeck at consultar.com wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi Luciano,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> You get confused by the paper "engendrando un smalltalk"
(generating
> > > >>> a
> > > >>> smalltalk) and the jod done to create a minimal image.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> The images that Alejandro has sent to this list are images created
> > > >>> BEFORE
> > > >>> the process of growing them using the parent-child process.  This
> > > >>> process
> > > >>> allows you to create the image you want, with or without the
> > > >>> mechanism
> > > >>> described in the paper.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Cheers,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Diego Gomez Deck
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Alejandro, this is very interesting.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I remember you told me about this long time ago, and I
> > > >>>> still have the same doubts: How stable are the images
> > > >>>> produced with this process? The final image includes
> > > >>>> only methods that have been activated in the nurturing
> > > >>>> process, right? What about the methods that have not
> > > >>>> been activated, but that are needed later? How long do
> > > >>>> you have to nurture an image before it stabilizes?
> > > >>>> Does it stabilize at all?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I guess at some point you would be able to generate a
> > > >>>> new image for the child, start a new vm and continue
> > > >>>> the nurturing process through the network. Are you
> > > >>>> doing that?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Please try to realise this project under the Squeak-L.
> > > >>>> A lot of us are eager to play with it.
> > > >>>> Luciano.-
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >> Prof. Dr. Stéphane DUCASSE (ducasse at iam.unibe.ch)
> > > >> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/
> > > >>  "if you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
> > > >>  different? ... especially if, by doing something different, today
> > > >>  might not be your last day on earth" Calvin&Hobbes
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Prof. Dr. Stéphane DUCASSE (ducasse at iam.unibe.ch)
> > > http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/
> > >   "if you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
> > >   different? ... especially if, by doing something different, today
> > >   might not be your last day on earth" Calvin&Hobbes
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>


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