Changing Process

Stephane Ducasse ducasse at
Tue Feb 18 14:03:04 UTC 2003

Hi jimmie and others

I think that Squeak deserves a process for managing improvements and 
next actions to be done.
Is there one Guide responsible of the book keeping?
I like the idea of serge to propose to use a way to manage request for 
Could a group of people decide on that issue and propose something?

I would like to see the fonts out of the image (I thought doug did that 
in fact).
I think that the process should help the harvesting process and also 
the ownership of the code.

I really feel that we are in this situation where Squeak needs a better 
process for establishing future priority, importance of changes....


On Tuesday, February 18, 2003, at 02:51 PM, Jimmie Houchin wrote:

> goran.hultgren at wrote:
>> Avi Bryant <avi at> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 goran.hultgren at wrote:
> [snip]
>> Well, I disagree. I simply want Squeak core to be non-mixed 
>> licensewise.
>> And I do think that there is a clear dependency here between the
>> generated parser and the tool used to generate it. So essentially I do
>> think both runtime and dev belong in core and therefore should be 
>> under
>> Squeak-L. But that is my opinion.
> I think Licensing purity is a nice goal but not quite as nice since 
> Squeak-L has its own warts. :)
> I still think it would be nice to remove the Apple fonts, use the 
> AccuFonts and the new opensourced Bitstream fonts. And start to clean 
> up the Squeak-L some. Make a Squeak-L rev.2 o some such.
> But I do think Squeak-L or better(more free) should be the goal of 
> Squeak-core.
> I was thinking I saw Cees working on a Squeak image similar to the 
> above with a cleaned up Squeak-L. I believe he said it was his 
> understanding that we could change the license provided we respected 
> Apple's right equal to the original license.
> Maybe Squeak 3.5/3.6 would be a good place to make such changes?
> Remove fonts? Remove fonts license issues?
> Remove unenforceable (export, etc...) license restrictions?
> Thank Apple for its contribution of Squeak to the world. :)
> Indemnify Apple of liability.
> Call it Squeak-L2?
> Then have all Squeak-core licensed the same. :)
> Okay, I'm over my 2 cents. :)
> Jimmie Houchin
Prof. Dr. Stéphane DUCASSE (ducasse at
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