But ECOOP is really an academic conference. You will nearly meet no 
developers other than academic.
The percentage at ECOOP is 10% developper compared to OOPSLA where in 
the past ist was 30% acdemics. ESUG is more 60% developper.

Stef


On 4 avr. 04, at 10:30, Julian Fitzell wrote:

> stéphane ducasse wrote:
>>>
>>> :(  Andrew and I were hoping to have work send us to ESUG but it 
>>> doesn't look like it's going to happen...  organizational 
>>> restructuring strikes again!
>> To bad because there are still a lot of smalltalker developers in 
>> Germany and this is Georg Heeg
>> is organizing and we are planning to have a business day. But yes 
>> money is the key.
>
> He he... I just re-read this thread and realized we were talking about 
> ESUG, not ECOOP, which is how I first read it.  But if they won't send 
> us to one, they won't send us to the other either so my main point 
> still holds, which is that we won't be there... :)
>
> Oh man, just got back from a week in tobago and apparently I already 
> need another vacation... :D
>
> Julian
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