Stef,

Thanks for posting this - it's a really stupid idea and I'm flat-out *amazed* that anyone would consider such an option. I've filled out the survey and put in a couple of notes that should give everyone some serious food for thought here.

And yes, I totally agree with your statement that a significant part of the survival of VW is linked to the existence of the NC version - I mean after all, how are people supposed to buy into VW if not via the NC version? It's too stupid to consider that you pay a full developers license without even having *seen* what you buy into.

Cheers,
  - Andreas

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: stéphane ducasse 
  To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list 
  Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:29 AM
  Subject: Helping other for helping us too


  Hi

  Apparently some high-level managers at cincom are questioning about the interest of having
  the non-commercial version of VisualWorks. Apparently the idea of a time-bombed version is circulating. I think that we can help VWNC if we would simply fill this form

  http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/scripts/SurveyMain.ssp

  I filled it and stated that having a trial version limited in time would be an step backward and that eventually I would migrate to other smalltalks Smalltalk/X and Squeak are great and Smalltalk/X deserves more attention.

  I really think that one of the aspect of the survival of VisualWorks is linked to the existence of the NC version. I do not think that ezboard would exist today if they could not have build a working prototype. I know friends developping in VW in the worse time of Objectshare that were desesperate and I remember the idea of buying the stock option of Objectshare. 

  The VisualWorks engineering team is working in the right direction and a strong VisualWorks is important for the ***entire*** Smalltalk community, so do not think that you are not concerned because you use Squeak or another Smalltalk! You are, we need a strong VisualWorks full of success stories. 

  Stef




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