On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 21:58:48 -0500, Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries at acm.org>  
wrote:

> I was visiting New Mexico Highlands University this week and last,
> working with Dave West's Software Development Apprenticeship program
> students. They are developing real software for customers, while
> attending the U.

Interesting. Do you have a URL handy? I'm thinking about tossing ideas  
like these around in Dutch universities (where CS is mostly a mix of  
getting your MS and Java certification these days anyway, they might as  
well do some useful work while they're at it ;-P).