[Newbee] Salutations

Simon Michael simon at joyful.com
Wed Oct 5 17:51:10 UTC 2005


Cees De Groot wrote:
> Because 15-20 years ago, when Smalltalk was pushed by large companies,
> it attracted a lot of untrained logo spinners and gave Smalltalk an
> undeserved bad reputation.

Back then, Smalltalk was also owned by the large companies. Now there is 
a significant open-source version, so it's not the same situation.

I agree with some points on both sides. A stronger stable/pink-plane 
side to Squeak, and consequent greater acceptance and larger 
user/developer/writer/business pool is needed, and despite the 
challenges it will bring, also brings benefits for everyone, blue-plane 
developers included. Obviously it has to happen in ways that don't slow 
down the innovators one bit. But we've discussed this before.

How and where to apply money to the project I think deserves separate 
and thorough discussion, because funding applied in the wrong way can 
easily fragment, befuddle and significantly set back a community. We 
should try to identify and create ways in which we can use it safely. As 
we continue to organize ourselves these will tend to become clearer.




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