Need to do something

stéphane ducasse ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Sun Oct 16 08:17:51 UTC 2005


>>> ***I basically agree with you about giving responsibility*** but  
>>> we  asked ***endlessly*** that someone take responsibility of  
>>> Etoy fixes,
>>> Morphic fixes or improvement, Balloon and nothing happened.
>>
>> Look at what you asked for: You asked for all of the trouble and  
>> none of the reward. In other words, if I were to sign up for that  
>> job in Balloon, I get to do the work, and you (or whoever is at  
>> the helm) gets to do the say. No deal, as far as I am concerned.  
>> That's not responsibility, that's slave labour.
>
> No. Why would that be? I am personally no "ego-coder", so I have a  
> hard time to understand some reactions of those who are. But even  
> with that: The maintainer of eToy of course
> gets the fame for that.
>
> The whole "Squeak maintaining/harvesting" thing was from my side  
> *never* intended to be my personal ego thing...

We all know that and this is the same for me. I do not really  
understand the problem here.


>>> " Oh yes, there has been *talk* about "how easy it would  
>>> be" (hah!)  but nothing has been done (and I put this finger  
>>> squarely at whatever  group feels itself at the helm today: all  
>>> these groups failed  *miserably* in this regard)."
>>> This is clear that the modularisation effort has not been working  
>>> fast.
>>
>> That is the understatement of the century ;-)

> But we should keep in mind that thise changesets that were made to  
> make the system modular were ignored.

There are two attitudes in the world:
     - helping people getting better
     - or considering that they cannot.

I always favored and will favor the first one. And again with little  
guidance we could have teams that would build wonders.
Or could have really clean morphic....

Stef



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