On Mon, 15 Mar 2010, Levente Uzonyi wrote:

> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Ken G. Brown wrote:
>
>> Ok, I agree as well that the release might be better closer to the current 
>> state.
>> Another option I suppose would be to match the unofficial releases on the 
>> ftp site now, like so:
>
> These are just snapshots, not releases. There are more of them in the 
> obsolete directory if you're interested in them.

Not obsolete, outdated.


Levente

>
>> 
>> Squeak-4.01 = Squeak3.11-8472-alpha.zip
>> 4.02 = Squeak3.11-8720-alpha.zip
>> 4.03 = Squeak3.11-8931-alpha.zip
>> 4.04 = Squeak3.11-9371-alpha.zip
>> 4.05 = Squeak3.11-9622-alpha.zip
>> 
>> Not sure what to do with Squeak3.11-9622-core.zip
>> 
>> Perhaps there needs to be a Squeak-4.x as well as a Squeak-Core-4.x
>
> All of these images are history. As you probably know, when 4.0 is out, we 
> will replay the trunk changes based on the 4.0 release. This will become the 
> new Trunk image which will be license clean. Soon after that we will freeze 
> the features. At that point we will concentrate on bugfixes, tests and 
> documentation. If we are ready with that, we will create a release candidate. 
> If no new issues will occur we will release 4.1, otherwise further release 
> candidates may come before 4.1. 4.1 will have a Core release too and probably 
> others (like Full).
>
>
> Levente
>
>> 
>> Ken G. Brown
>> 
>> At 5:05 AM +0100 3/15/10, Levente Uzonyi apparently wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Ken G. Brown wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't understand the -1.
>>>> Does it refer to freezing at 9371? Or the 'reconsider'?
>>> 
>>> Freezing.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ie do you mean you would prefer freezing at an update closer than three 
>>>> hundred and ten updates behind? Like maybe the latest unofficial release 
>>>> =
>>>> Squeak3.11-9622-alpha.zip?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I want to fix/enhance a few more things.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Levente
>>> 
>>>> Ken G. Brown
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> At 4:30 AM +0200 3/15/10, Igor Stasenko apparently wrote:
>>>>> On 15 March 2010 04:00, Levente Uzonyi <leves at elte.hu> wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010, Ken G. Brown wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You might want to reconsider freezing at update 9371.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A big -1 from me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> -1 too.
>>>>> It reminds me a turtle and sprinter paradox.
>>>>> The turtle started first, and were able to crawl half way to finish.
>>>>> Sprinter runs much faster than turtle, but once he run half the way to
>>>>> finish, a turtle
>>>>> were able to crawl a bit more. To match with turtle, a sprinter needs
>>>>> also to run this distance,
>>>>> but while he takes time to run it, a turtle crawls forward a bit more,
>>>>> and so on, so on.
>>>>> So, we can make a conclusion: no matter how fast a sprinter runs, he
>>>>> can't catch up with turtle :)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Levente
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is already 310 updates behind the latest when I checked today.
>>>>>>> That is: three hundred and ten updates behind. Not version 3.10.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Seems to me like a lot to be behind when doing a release.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ken G. Brown
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> At 5:08 AM -0200 3/14/10, Edgar J. De Cleene apparently wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have  some questions for Board.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What is the life cycle of 4.0 ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The people in charge bother for update until the Closures enters to
>>>>>>>> system
>>>>>>>> as I beg tons of times for 3.10 and of course don't was listen ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> When I could start 4.1 ?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What the schedule for 4.1?
>>>>>>>> My idea is go to 9371 update and frooze.
>>>>>>>> Rip all know bugs and try to get green all test.
>>>>>>>> This is coordination .
>>>>>>>> All CoreDevelopers should take serious the quality of the release.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Begin to play together if we want win the 2010 Season to the Pharo 
>>>>>>>> car
>>>>>>>> !!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You have the talent and the only way I stop bothering all is when all
>>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>> go green and no obscure thing breaks the "car" Squeak 4dot1.image
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Edgar
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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