Well, to be fair this is the right time to push longer term
work-in-progress stuff in trunk. Frustrated is my usual state :)

frank

On 11 April 2013 21:43, Nicolas Cellier
<nicolas.cellier.aka.nice at gmail.com> wrote:
> I understand how this can be frustrating for Frank :(
> His efforts for having the CI server working could supposedly be rewarded by
> correction of errors and regressions soon after their introduction...
> Unfortunately, it's precisely the time chosen by Bert and Colin for
> introducing longer term work in progress in trunk.
> We are less patient than we used to be :)
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> 2013/4/10 Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>
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>> On 10.04.2013, at 05:45, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> > On 10 April 2013 13:42, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On 11 March 2013 00:11,  <commits at source.squeak.org> wrote:
>> >>> Bert Freudenberg uploaded a new version of EToys to project The Trunk:
>> >>> http://source.squeak.org/trunk/EToys-bf.94.mcz
>> >>>
>> >>> ==================== Summary ====================
>> >>>
>> >>> Name: EToys-bf.94
>> >>> Author: bf
>> >>> Time: 11 March 2013, 1:11:38.945 am
>> >>> UUID: 4abe21cf-5215-40c9-8371-07b6a9e09b81
>> >>> Ancestors: EToys-fbs.93
>> >>>
>> >>> Bring in some classes and methods from the Etoys image so that project
>> >>> loading gives a meaningful error, not just 'unknown class'. See
>> >>> ReleaseBuilderSqueakland>>buildInitialScreen
>> >>>
>> >>> =============== Diff against EToys-fbs.93 ===============
>> >>
>> >> This has several missing classes, I just discovered: SExpElement,
>> >> EToyExpressionTransformer2 and SugarPropertiesNotification.
>> >>
>> >> I only just noticed now because
>> >> Tests.Release.ReleaseTest.testUndeclared often fails for spurious
>> >> reasons (discussed at length elsewhere).
>> >
>> > I hit "send" too soon. It bothers me that Bert didn't get told that he
>> > was about to add missing class definitions. I understand that they
>> > weren't missing in his image, but it'd be really nice if something
>> > somewhere could have told Bert "you've forgotten some classes". The
>> > current "commit and see what CI says" mechanism is suboptimal.
>>
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>> They're not in my image either. The mechanism to inform me is the
>> undeclared warning that gets logged to the transcript. And I ignored it
>> because this is work in progress.
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>> - Bert -
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