[squeak-dev] More on Trunk.

Tobias Pape Das.Linux at gmx.de
Mon Dec 30 08:43:51 UTC 2013


On 30.12.2013, at 00:20, David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 02:16:34PM +0100, Tobias Pape wrote:
>> 
>> On 29.12.2013, at 14:07, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 29 December 2013 12:27, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> the current trunk image cannot be opened in the official[1]
>>>> Squeak Interpreter VM:
>>>> 
>>>> /Applications/Squeak\ 4.2.5beta1U.app/Contents/MacOS/Squeak\ VM\ Opt /Users/tobias/Downloads/TrunkImage/Squeak4.5-13148.image
>>>> This interpreter (vers. 0) cannot read image file (vers. 6505).
>>>> Press CR to quit...
>>>> 
>>>> What should we do?
>>> 
>>> Be more specific, for starters :) "The current trunk image" - which
>>> image? From which build, or from the ftp.squeak.org site?
>>> 
>> 
>> Ok sorry, It is the same as from my other mail:
>> 	todays Trunk image (Squeak4.5-13148#712) (NameVersion-Update#CIJob)
>> 
>>> I'd like "official" to mean "the build artifact of the
>>> ReleaseSqueakTrunk job", but until I fix that (hopefully today!) that
>>> approach won't work.
>> 
>> Well. here the forgoten [1]:
>> 
>> http://squeakvm.org/mac/ still gives 
>> ALSO the 4.2.5beta1U as Latest Release?
>> We should do something about the site then.
>> 
>>> 
>>> I suspect that you have Chris' image off the ftp site, because the
>>> SqueakTrunk job produces images in the 6504 format, as _should_
>>> ReleaseSqueakTrunk, were it not broken.
>> 
>> Hmp. Ok, I saved once before executing this and apparently, that
>> was a Cog vm. My fault. 
>> 
>> Could we release a kind-of final Carbon VM (as the 4.2.5beta1U is) that
>> understands 6405? As in, this is the last CarbonVM built, like ever?
>> In case of ?no?, nevermind :)
> 
> We do not have a maintainer for the Carbon VM, and the most recent update
> for that VM is now quite old. As a result, it does not include support
> for the more recent 6405 image format.
> 
> The workaround for Squeak release images is to re-save the final release
> artifact using an up to date interpreter VM. This has been done for the
> last couple of Squeak releases, and as long as people like you and Edgar
> continue to rely on the older Mac VMs, then I think that we should continue
> that practice.
> 
> If anyone has the ability and interest to compile a Carbon VM using
> up to date VMMaker and sources, please speak up either here or on the
> vm-dev list. There are a number of people (probably including many who
> do not bother to complain) who would appreciate an update like this.

Well, the Cog-VMs are still Carbon, no?

Best
	-Tobias

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