On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:

>
> On 04.05.2015, at 20:24, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Eliot Miranda <eliot.miranda at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> This breaks my image, dumping it into the emergency evaluator, I *think*
> >> because the new LetterMask, AlphaNumbericMask and DigitBit variables
> are not
> >> handledf correctly by the Spur bootstrap.  Sigh.  So for those of you
> using
> >> Spur please *don't* update until I've fixed the bootstrap.
> >>
> >> You know, by /not/ releasing, we are delaying because now I am fixing
> the
> >> bootstrap to keep up with development, instead of us having released,
> and
> >> being able to freely commit on Spur.  We are now wasting cycles.  At
> least I
> >> am.
> >
> > I was having a similar thought just today because I needed an
> > up-to-date Spur image and thought about asking whether you'd like
> > someone to set that up as an automatic job, then realized, we just
> > need to release.
> >
> > Which, we are.  We are not "not releasing", we _are_ releasing, its
> > just taking a bit longer than expected because there are still some
> > bugs and loose ends (unrelated to Marcel's work) still needing tied
> > up.  Maintaining the separate branch and the bootstrap is a hassle,
> > but it shouldn't be much longer.
>
> Just to mention: http://build.squeak.org/job/SqueakTrunk/ tells us that
>
> a) we have 15 tests failing.
>
>  KernelTests.Numbers.LargePositiveIntegerTest.testReciprocalModulo
>  Tests.Dependencies.PackageDependencyTest.testToolBuilder
>  Tests.Compiler.DecompilerTests.testDecompilerInClassesSAtoSM
>
>  Tests.Compiler.ClosureCompilerTest.testSourceRangeAccessForBlueBookInjectInto
>  Tests.Compiler.DecompilerTests.testDecompilerInClassesFNtoFZ
>  Tests.Compiler.DecompilerTests.testDecompilerInClassesLAtoLM
>  Tests.Exceptions.ExceptionTests.testHandlerFromActio
>  Tests.Dependencies.PackageDependencyTest.testNetwork
>  Tests.Dependencies.PackageDependencyTest.testPreferenceBrowser
>  Tests.Release.ReleaseTest.testNoObsoleteClasses
>  ToolsTests.Browser.BrowserTest.testSelectClassNamedPreservesPlace
>  MultilingualTests.Display.FontTest.testParagraph
>  MultilingualTests.Display.FontTest.testParagraphFallback
>  SqueakSSL.Tests.SqueakSSLTest.testYahooOpenID
>
>  CollectionsTests.Text.TextAttributesScanningTest.testPluggableTextAttribute
>
>
> b) sometimes the current cog vm runs into a crash when executing
> TraitMethodDescriptionTest>>#testCategories
>         (see http://build.squeak.org/job/SqueakTrunk/1413/console )
>
> I'd rather have this to be the metric for the release…
>

and how can we get to zero defects if we keep on developing?


>
> Best regards
>         -Tobias




-- 
best,
Eliot
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