[Squeak-fr] Re: French translation based on Language Editor

[stéphane ducasse]

Hilaire

Cool down.  can you describe exactly your problem so that diego can  
help us?
Diego it seems that if you load translation using the language editor  
and save them then
we lose translations.

can you help hilaire? I hope that he will not get a break nerves :)

Stef



> Bon les choses sont pires que je pensais.
>
> En fait en important dans le Language Editor et les re-exportant depuis
> le language editor nombre de vos traductions sont perdues.
> C'est cool hein !
>
> Plus d'informations sur le wiki.
> http://www.iutc3.unicaen.fr/smalltalkfr/pmwiki.php/Main/ 
> TraductionSqueak
>
> Hilaire
>
>
> Le lun 25/10/2004 à 16:46, Hilaire Fernandes a écrit :
>> Hello Diego,
>>
>>
>> We (squeak-fr@) have an updated French.po at
>> http://www.ofset.org/~hilaire/French.po
>> I know some of the msgid are wrong. These msgid were extracted by a
>> third party and my knowledge of Squeak does not allow me to figure out
>> yet what's wong in the extraction process.
>>
>> However, I try to import this French.po in the Squeak 3.7. However the
>> gettext import does not work with my 3.7 image. Is it a known problem  
>> or
>> only a problem of myself.
>>
>> In the meantime, I found that importing the French.po in Small-land  
>> 3.5,
>> then exporting as a French.translation was working. Indeed, the import
>> of French.translation is working with Squeak image 3.7, ouf!
>>
>> However I noted that the original French.po and French.translation do
>> have different weigth. The first one weigth 790kB and the second  
>> 230kB.
>> Oops, quite different, not sure what is lost in the meantime.
>>
>> Hilaire
>>
>>
>> Le ven 17/09/2004 à 20:26, Diego Gomez Deck a écrit :
>>> Hi Hilaire,
>>>
>>> Sorry for the long time to answer, I was travelling for a couple of
>>> days.
>>>
>>>> Diego,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are working in the French translation of Squeak. We have based  
>>>> our
>>>> translation on your Small-Land-215.image. I don't know which  
>>>> version of
>>>> Squeak it is in fact. Is it 3.6 or a pre3.8 or a 3.7?
>>>
>>> It's based on 3.5.
>>>
>>>> Our translation work depends indeed in your work on LanguageEditor  
>>>> and
>>>> the Spanish image. Thanks for your work.
>>>
>>> You're welcome!
>>>
>>>> So far I have been able to re-use our translation into this specific
>>>> version.
>>>
>>> Please send me the current version of French translation to include  
>>> in
>>> Small-Land image.  Don't worry if it's not the definitive one.
>>>
>>>> What do we have to do to inject it in mainstream version, let's say
>>>> version 3.6?
>>>
>>> Good question, but I'm not the guy to answer.  The "oficial" Squeak  
>>> is
>>> in hand of the "guides" and they have to answer about it. You have to
>>> send you question to squeak-dev mailing list.
>>>
>>>> I was unable to install the LanguageEditor into 3.6.
>>>> I was able to install it into 3.7 but the gettext tools is not  
>>>> working
>>>> there, so I have used the load/save facilities, it was successfull.
>>>>
>>>> In about two weeks I have to get a ready French image of Squeak to  
>>>> be
>>>> used by junior hight-school students in an open contest. Of course I
>>>> will be happy to use some of your Image with nice layout and  
>>>> usability,
>>>> but it may be too late for me at this time.
>>>
>>> You can use Small-Land image (the current and stable one) as the base
>>> for your work.  It's quiet stable and thousands of computers in
>>> Extremadura are using it.
>>>
>>> We also have a plugin, and I'm working on the migration to 3.8.
>>>
>>> So I suggest to reuse my work and build on top of it.
>>>
>>>> Oh, a last question, when I try your last smallland image, I was  
>>>> able to
>>>> load some French tutorial, however the accent characteres were  
>>>> broken,
>>>> is there some changment in the characters encoding? (Switching to
>>>> utf-8?)
>>>
>>> Which image? 3.8? It's a known bug and I think Yoshiki/Michael are
>>> working on it.
>>>
>>>> Thanks for any help and advices,
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Hilaire Fernandes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> PS: Your new Squeak image has a look'n fell a bit like Gnome  
>>>> Desktop. I
>>>> am developing the GTK+ 'DrGeo' software for dynamic geometry. Do you
>>>> know this software?
>>>
>>> Not, I didn't... I'll find the time to play with it.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> -- Diego
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