[Squeakfoundation]Brainstormin'

[Cees de Groot]

Maarten Maartensz <maartens@xs4all.nl> said:
>Reason for my questions: There is little point trying to set up a
>Foundation if the Central - where most coding and coordinating still
>happens - has other plans or targets than the planned Foundation.
>
No worries here. Dan will outline the details tomorrow, but maybe it says
enough that he's the designated Executive Director of SqF and a core member of
SqC. 

>For them, as for me, a really good and versatile
>programming environment like Squeak could be (but is not yet) would be a
>truly excellent tool to think with and publish with (rather than write a
>commercially selling application with, which doesn't  interest me at all).
>

>The best effort in this direction, and probably the best hope, is what
>Tansel Ersavas is doing with Squeak News.
>
I do think that there's more to come - there are books on Squeak (outdated
against the current version, probably, but that hasn't killed the Java
bookmarket either ;-)), and I'm quite sure that with a slowly increasing
crowd, the number of titles will rise at well. Anyway, compared to other
language I saw happening from early on, Squeak has a remarkably large
portfolio of printed material. It's maybe just an on-line manual (like what
you get with VisualWorks) that's missing. 

I must say, Squeak News is great fun - but I don't think it counts as
documentation...

>
>Speaking for myself, after 6 months of dedicated reading of the Squeak
>maillist, I still know hardly anything of the academic qualifications,
>outlook, concerns, or ages of hardly anyone on the list. Well: That may be
>a quite sufficient basis for mailing about programming and developing a
>programming language, but is not a sufficient  basis for getting something
>done in real life in real society.
>
Don't forget that a lot of the "Squeak incrowd" (myself expressly *not*
included in that group at the moment) knows each other quite well in real
life. A lot of them visit OOPSLA, Camp Smalltalk, etcetera and have had a
chance to meet in person on more than one occasion. So it's not exactly that
there are a bunch of strangers here are trying to set something up (in fact, I
wouldn't be surprised at all if I'd be the only guy on the list of names Dan
put up for the Squeak Foundation that hasn't met anyone else).

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