[Squeakfoundation]re: Flow integration

[goran.hultgren@bluefish.se]

Michael Rueger <m.rueger@acm.org> wrote:
> goran.hultgren@bluefish.se wrote:
> 
> > No they were not. VH (a project of Bluefish) is not in the image and use
> > the Sockets heavily. My point being that I agree fully with Colin,
> 
> It would be interesting to see how much of your application gets broken 
> by the network rewrite. That would give a real life estimate on how much 
> pain refactorings may cause.

Yes, but I don't think I will take the time to do that. VH is shelved
for the moment.

> On the other hand we should learn from the Mac OS experience where Apple 
> decided to avoid pain for too long by staying backwards compatible to 
> broken APIs.
> It's like saving money by not changing the oil in your car ;-)

Just for the record: I generally do *not* think that
backwardscompatibility is that important - I want Squeak to evolve as
"fast" as possible! But I also think that a package like Flow could get
much more acceptance if I could install it without having it break my
old stuff. And I also think that people need to understand that the
image isn't the world of Squeak code.

But please let us stop talking about choosing one before the other -
let's aim at having them 
*both* as packages so people can pick and choose. That is after all what
we want, right?

regards, Göran