[Squeakfoundation]A Gentle Introduction to the Squeak Community

[Andreas.Raab@gmx.de]

> Andreas.Raab@gmx.de wrote:
> > <quote>
> > technically, Squeak isn't Open Source
> > </quote>
> 
> Yes, Andreas - that is true.

Guys, please. Even if it may be technically correct that Squeak is not OSI
approved and therefore not Open Source (tm) Software that's no way to phrase
it. Just imagine what you would think if you read this. If that's the way
you're going to do marketing then good night. For starters change this into "not
OSI approved" instead of "not Open Source" and if someone complains then make
it "open source" (IIRC, then only "Open Source" is tm-ed). In fact, I would
say "OSI approval pending".

  - Andreas

> Cees tried the SqueakL on the OpenSource
> guys (www.opensource.org) (they have a list for these things) and there
> are two problems:
> 
> 1. The font clause must be removed. This is possible to do, but until it
> has been removed SqueakL fails OSD compliance.
> 
> 2. Clause 6 fails the non-discrimination test of OSD.
> 
> A quote from Matthew Weigel on that: 
> 
> "IIRC, this actually came up with the APSL too (corrections, anyone? 
> was it the Plan 9 license instead?). If that recollection is 
> correct, then it seems that it might be 'easy' to point out that 
> they have capitulated on that point previously (that's probably not 
> the best wording to use around them, though :)."
> 
> And Forrest J. Cavalier III:
> 
> "Requiring  compliance with U.S. laws, even in other jurisdictions is 
> unnecessary.  But the way paragraph 6 is worded, I think it obviously
> fails the OSD non-discrimination test.
> 
> I quote that paragraph:
> 
> 6. Export Law Assurances.  You may not use or otherwise export or
> reexport the Apple Software except as authorized by United States law
> and the laws of the jurisdiction in which the Apple Software was
> obtained.  In particular, but without limitation, the Apple Software
> may not be exported or reexported (i) into (or to a national or
> resident of) any U.S. embargoed country or (ii) to anyone on the U.S.
> Treasury Department's list of Specially Designated Nationals or 
> the U.S. Department of Commerce's Table of Denial Orders.  By using
> the Apple Software, you represent and warrant that you are not located
> in, under control of, or a national or resident of any such country 
> or on any such list.<p>
> 
> I am sorry that there are some previous licenses to work with
> here.  Squeak is pretty well-known.  But my recommendation:
> DEFINITELY DO NOT APPROVE."
> 
> regards, Göran
> 
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