[Squeakland] NetMorph; squeakland vs. squeak

Randy Heiland heiland at indiana.edu
Thu Sep 1 11:40:06 PDT 2005


Masashi,
Thanks for the reply!  I will anxiously await NetMorph for Squeakland05.

--Randy

> -----Original Message-----
> From: squeakland-bounces at squeakland.org [mailto:squeakland-
> bounces at squeakland.org] On Behalf Of Masashi Umezawa
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 5:28 AM
> To: squeakland at squeakland.org
> Subject: Re: [Squeakland] NetMorph; squeakland vs. squeak
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Thank you for the interest in NetMorph project.
> 
> The reason I'm developing NetMorph in Squeak 3.8 is that 3.8 is a sort of
> stable version. After releasing NetMorph for 3.8, I'll start NetMorph
> for Squeakland 05. I think it is not so hard work, because Squeakland 05
> is based on Squeak 3.8.
> 
> NetMorph for 3.8 will be released in a few weeks. For Squeakland 05,
> one more week will be needed.
> 
> So, please wait patiently.
> I would like to make NetMorph to be "classroom" quality.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> > Hi Squeakers,
> >
> > As events from Squeakfest continue to bubble in my brain and outreach
> > opportunities present themselves, I've been wondering lately about the
> > NetMorph demo.  I think this sort of functionality, i.e., distributed
> > objects in Squeak, would be great fun and could lead to some terrific
> > educational projects.  So, my first question is - exactly how steep is
> the
> > barrier to getting it working in the Squeakland version of Squeak (since
> it
> > was pointed out that it required the "full" Squeak version).
> >
> > (Warning: probably leaving the intended range of topics for this list)
> > This got me to wonder, more generally, about the differences in "full"
> > Squeak (at squeak.org) vs. Squeakland Squeak and, for that matter, full
> > Squeak vs. Tweak (or whatever it may eventually be called).  For
> starters,
> > there's the question of the sizes (disk and memory) of these different
> > animals.  A quick glance at the size of the image from Squeakland05 is
> ~17M.
> > After downloading Squeak 3.8, I see its image is ~18M, but there's also
> a
> > 14M "changes" file which, I'm assuming is required to run the image?
> > Running the Squeakland05 app, I see it uses about 28M of memory.  The
> Squeak
> > 3.8 app uses about the same.
> >
> > I guess buried in my ramblings is my concern for yet another open source
> > software community to be split.  My desire to have the NetMorph
> > functionality, but wanting to stay with the more kid-friendly Squeakland
> > version of Squeak, is just one semi-frustrating example.
> >
> > --Randy
> >
> 
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