[squeakland] Bananas in a Box questions

[R.D. Latimer]

Thanks for the Catch Games link Kathleen, now I see how to run these
http://etoysillinois.org/library.php?tags=Catch%20Games
I was trying Alanna's Butterfly Catcher, and didn't know how to 'catch' the
butterflies.
http://etoysillinois.org/library?sl=1754
Pick them up with the mouse and put in the box, this increments the counter.

Very good - thanks again,
Randy Latimer

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Harness, Kathleen <kharness at illinois.edu>wrote:

>  Randy,
> The project in the link below works for me, maybe we are counting different
> bananas? When I click the go button the bananas move around and if I can
> catch one and drop it into the box, the count increases by 1 and will do so
> as each banana is put into the box. A banana that just moves over the box is
> not in the box until it is picked up with the mouse/cursor and dropped into
> the box so that it is contained there and no longer can it roam the rest of
> the world.
>
> There isn't a test in this project, that would be too hard for young
> students to make, but not to play. The script has  forward by and turn by
> tiles. The tool that is counting is a detailed watcher for the playfield's
> collection and it does the work of counting whatever is in the playfield. It
> counts whether the script is ticking or not, drop a banana in or, the title,
> and the counter increases for each object.
>
> Did you have a chance to look at the scripts in the student's Catch Games
> projects? They were made by 2d-5th grader students last year.
> Regards,
> Kathleen
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* R.D. Latimer [rdlatimer at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 5:31 PM
> *To:* Harness, Kathleen
> *Cc:* Rita Freudenberg; Allard, Fred; squeakland at squeakland.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [squeakland] Bananas in a Box questions
>
>  Thanks for all this help, I initially set out to count the number of
> bananas that get into the box.  To get my counter into 'all-scripts' I
> needed to click the timer.
> Then I'll need to stop each banana if it enters the box or somehow just
> count +1 for it's entry into the box.
> I realized I was thinking too complicated for a level K program.
> I'm not sure what 'count' is meant to show
> http://etoysillinois.org/library?sl=1656
> Run this, the box's count stays at 0.  The logic I'm using initially is,
> from the box perspective,
> if the box's color sees the banana's color, increment count.
> What happens is the counter increments many times, as long as the banana
> and box colors are touching for each time click.
>
> So, I guess a more basic question is - what's the counter at the bottom of
> the box supposed to be doing...my version I'm running the count stays at 0.
>
> THanks again
>
> Randy
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Harness, Kathleen <kharness at illinois.edu>wrote:
>
>> Hi Randy,
>> The counter under the box is from the playfield's collection tiles and is
>> a detailed watcher. I renamed it: box.
>>
>> If you want to count the bananas that are not in the box so children can
>> see changes from one place to another and do a little addition too, then put
>> the bananas in another playfield from Supplies, open its halo, choose the
>> Viewer tool, click on the basic label to open the category menu and choose
>> playfield's count. This way it will be clear that it is only bananas that
>> are being counted. If you use the world's collection counter, then it will
>> count everything including the title, playfields,and the stop step go button
>> etc.
>>
>> There are lesson materials that go with the project but you have to scroll
>> down after choosing and before you download or open the project.  I have had
>> students make projects like this and you can see theirs if you click on the
>> Library Collection tag:  Catch Games. I think theirs go too fast but the
>> kids liked them and it was their decision to make.
>>
>> Thanks for your comments and questions I look forward to hearing more
>> about what you and your students are doing with Etoys.
>> Regards,
>> Kathleen Harness
>> ________________________________________
>> From: squeakland-bounces at squeakland.org [
>> squeakland-bounces at squeakland.org] on behalf of Rita Freudenberg [
>> rita at isg.cs.uni-magdeburg.de]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 12:13 PM
>> To: R.D. Latimer
>> Cc: Allard, Fred; squeakland at squeakland.org
>> Subject: Re: [squeakland] Bananas in a Box questions
>>
>> Am 25.08.2011 um 17:54 schrieb R.D. Latimer:
>>
>> > Hi, I'm new to Etoys. We're implementing this fall in an elementary
>> school in Fairfax County VA.  I'm running the Bananas In A Box program for
>> kindergarten by Kathleen Harness.
>> > The bananas spin around according to their scripts
>> > Banana Forward by 12, Banana turn by 4
>> >
>> > When they get into the box, a counter should increment.
>> > This part I'm unsure how to do.
>> >
>> > Box has a field called "count" under the "collections" field.  I don't
>> see how to increment this.
>> > So I created a variable for Box called "counter".
>> > I create a script within, or coming from, the Box viewer:
>> > Test: if Box's color sees yellow (of the banana), increment my variable
>> counter by 1.
>> >
>> > I run the 'all scripts' box, but this new 'incrementer' script from Box
>> is not included. Only the banana scripts are in the 'all scripts' box.
>> > So the counter variable script does not run when a banana goes into the
>> box.
>>
>> Hi Randy,
>>
>> if I understand correctly, you are saying, that "all scripts" isn't
>> running all the scripts? To have a script get started with the "all scripts"
>> button, this scripts needs to be in the state "paused". You can see a short
>> info about this in the balloon-help, which appears, if you move the mouse
>> over an object and wait a little.
>> To change the state of a script, click on the field on top of the scriptor
>> (in the example below it says "normal". Click and hold, then you can change
>> the state.
>>
>
>
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