[squeakland] Mesh Networking for Etoys?

[karl ramberg]

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 2:11 PM, R.D. Latimer <rdlatimer at gmail.com> wrote:

> This sounds interesting, I'm not sure how it will all work/be implemented,
> but looks good as an idea.  We'll be working with all of these languages
> this year (Fairfax Cty VA), so this could fit nicely.
>
> Is WeScheme/Racket something that could work with this too?  Bootstrapworld
> initiative is using that platform,
>
> Randy Latimer
>
> http://www.bootstrapworld.org/
> http://www.wescheme.org/
> http://racket-lang.org/
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Steve Thomas <sthomas1 at gosargon.com>wrote:
>
>> So I have been playing with ScratchConnect for Etoys, Scratch/BYOB and
>> python (scripts here<http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Communicating_to_Scratch_via_Python>)
>> and was able to connect all three and exchange messages using the Remote
>> Sensor Protocol
>> <http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Remote_Sensors_Protocol>developed for
>> Scratch.
>>
>> So I see this can be used in a couple of ways:
>>
>>    1. Have Etoys and Scratch interact where one computer is the Game
>>    Board and the others are game controllers (or they are all a combination of
>>    both)
>>    2. Multi-player games
>>    3. An Etoy project that "reacts" to external events (ex: animations
>>    fire when you receive a tweet or a remote sensor in your room detects that
>>    your little brother/sister has broken into your room without proper
>>    authorization).
>>    4. Interface to robotics using Python interfaces (or using Physical
>>    Etoys and a controller on an iPad)
>>    5. Interface to Social Networking sites using Python interfaces
>>    (example auto-post to a blog using the Google APIs)
>>    6. All of the above using a web site as the Mesh Relay
>>
>> So my questions are:
>>
>>    1. Am I over simplifying? What am I missing as to why this wouldn't
>>    work?
>>    2. Can we add ScratchConnect with one enhancement (similar to those in
>>    BYOB <http://byob.berkeley.edu/>) where the Etoy project can act as a
>>    HOST (ie: no need for a Scratch project to relay the messages) or simply
>>    join a Mesh
>>
>> Someone needs to do the work of integrating the code.

>
>>    1. Can we setup a "Web Relay service" where kids (like me :) can setup
>>    private Mesh Networks and interact and play? How hard would this be and what
>>    would it take?
>>
>>  Most likely, but  we do not have anybody working on it...
Just 2-3 work on Etoys bug fix and development now it seems.


>>    1. The ScratchConnect interface currently does not support serializing
>>    and transporting objects (ie: it 'would be great if I could "serialize a
>>    morph" send it over the ScratchConnect interface to another Etoys project
>>    and have it appear there).  I know there was work like this with either the
>>    Nebraska Server, ?NetMorph? et al, but I like the simplicity of the
>>    ScratchConnect  interface.
>>
>> NetMorphs can be sent over the net.
It's a big job to integrate it.
Croquet has lot's of network and chairing that can be integrated. Scratch as
well.

Karl

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>> Stephen
>>
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