[UI] ToolBuilder

Gary Chambers gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com
Sun Sep 9 18:07:20 UTC 2007


Persnoally I'd like a clean framework, a  GUI builder (that stores as code -
hence versionable etc. using existing tools) and a framework that still
allows traditional Morphic. All possible.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org 
> [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of 
> Jason Johnson
> Sent: 09 September 2007 5:08 pm
> To: Squeak's User Interface
> Subject: Re: [UI] ToolBuilder
> 
> 
> Just to clarify what I meant:  It just seems to me that 
> Morphic is quite complex.  If this complexity isn't buying us 
> something special that no other system has then I think we 
> should consider dropping it (or fix it if it's fixable).
> 
> On 9/9/07, Jason Johnson <jason.johnson.081 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 9/9/07, Bill Schwab <BSchwab at anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
> > > Jason,
> > >
> > > I respectfully submit that you are indeed off base :)
> >
> > I can accept that, I'm by no means an export.  But where am I off 
> > base?  If I can't find that out I can't correct my misconceptions. 
> > What I read in your argument was basically "Morphic is what 
> we have". 
> > That is valid, but if we are considering making the 
> definitive UI for 
> > Squeak I think we need to get off to the right foot, or at 
> least know 
> > what it is.
> >
> > Your point about wanting a builder is certainly valid, but 
> we can have 
> > that for any View framework we build.  If Morphic isn't a 
> fit lets at 
> > least plan to drop it for something that is.  I appreciate 
> someone put 
> > a lot of work in coming up with Morphic and people have put 
> in effort 
> > bringing it to Squeak, but the point of experimenting is to 
> be able to 
> > say "well, it didn't work".
> >
> > And I also agree about Tweak.
> >
> > Oh, and I'm up for doing what I can to build MVP from the 
> ground up. I 
> > think it's the right thing to do.
> >
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