[UI] ToolBuilder

[Jason Johnson]

Sure, if we build up an MVP framework we can certainly use Morphic for
the view.  That's not a problem.  We can also let the user decide.
They can make the model objects and the presenters and then they can
provide multiple views:  a native host view, a morphic view, and old
MVC style view and so on.

On 9/9/07, Gary Chambers <gazzaguru2 at btinternet.com> wrote:
> Persnoally I'd like a clean framework, a  GUI builder (that stores as code -
> hence versionable etc. using existing tools) and a framework that still
> allows traditional Morphic. All possible.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
> > Jason Johnson
> > Sent: 09 September 2007 5:08 pm
> > To: Squeak's User Interface
> > Subject: Re: [UI] ToolBuilder
> >
> >
> > Just to clarify what I meant:  It just seems to me that
> > Morphic is quite complex.  If this complexity isn't buying us
> > something special that no other system has then I think we
> > should consider dropping it (or fix it if it's fixable).
> >
> > On 9/9/07, Jason Johnson <jason.johnson.081 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 9/9/07, Bill Schwab <BSchwab at anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
> > > > Jason,
> > > >
> > > > I respectfully submit that you are indeed off base :)
> > >
> > > I can accept that, I'm by no means an export.  But where am I off
> > > base?  If I can't find that out I can't correct my misconceptions.
> > > What I read in your argument was basically "Morphic is what
> > we have".
> > > That is valid, but if we are considering making the
> > definitive UI for
> > > Squeak I think we need to get off to the right foot, or at
> > least know
> > > what it is.
> > >
> > > Your point about wanting a builder is certainly valid, but
> > we can have
> > > that for any View framework we build.  If Morphic isn't a
> > fit lets at
> > > least plan to drop it for something that is.  I appreciate
> > someone put
> > > a lot of work in coming up with Morphic and people have put
> > in effort
> > > bringing it to Squeak, but the point of experimenting is to
> > be able to
> > > say "well, it didn't work".
> > >
> > > And I also agree about Tweak.
> > >
> > > Oh, and I'm up for doing what I can to build MVP from the
> > ground up. I
> > > think it's the right thing to do.
> > >
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