how do we proceed for packages?

[goran.krampe at bluefish.se]

Hi fellas!

Doug Way <dway at mailcan.com> wrote:
[SNIP]
> on SqueakMap and maintain them there.  But with Basic packages, they 
> really need to be "in" the image.  (Yes, we'll also have a Minimal 
> image one day, but the update stream really needs to follow Basic.)

May I ask why they need to be "in" the image? (this is not irony or
anything like that, I just would like to understand the perceived
problem better)

> So, the options are something like this:
> 
> 1. Add OmniBrowser to the Basic image via the update stream, and 
> maintain it in the image via the update stream from then on. (e.g. 
> Colin would have access to update it via the update stream)  But still 
> keep it clearly defined as a PI package.
> 
> 2. Add OmniBrowser to the Basic image via the update stream, but still 
> maintain the master copy on SqueakMap.  When significant changes are 
> made, a new version is added to the update stream from SM.  This is 
> kind of what we're doing with the SqueakMap package itself.  It's kind 
> of clunky... I don't like this. :)

Why is it clunky?

> 3. Do not add it to the Basic image.  (Which will probably mean it will 
> never effectively replace Browser.)
> 
> 4. Wait for some sort of magical dependency scheme to come around to 
> solve these problems... ;)

This last bullet implies that there is a problem with dependencies
making number 2 above problematic. Can you elabore? I of course agree we
want dependencies "yesterday" but I am not sure why it is a problem in
this case.
 
> Maybe once the image is partitioned into packages (which are not 
> removed from the image), and better tools are developed for handling 
> these packages, it may become more obvious how to handle this...

I am still a tad lost. What is the problem with maintaining OB outside
of the image and simply upgrade it in Basic with updates issueing SM
commands? You may have explained this before :) but I really would like
to hear it once more to grok it. ;)

> - Doug

regards, Göran