[Vm-dev] Re: Mac + Cog - mouse clicks
John M McIntosh
johnmci at smalltalkconsulting.com
Fri Dec 24 02:55:03 UTC 2010
Well the community needs to start thinking about the cost associated with supporting the VM building.
Not only will in the future you need a $99 license to sign os-x VMs, the intel compiler just produces better code.
This might change over time with LLVM, but right now the LLVM compile won't create a VM. This perhaps is a step UP from
the past where LLVM would produce a VM that crashes, or is it?
But the entry cost of reporting a bug is the $99 license. Oh well MAYBE one can do it for free, but good luck with that...
On 2010-12-23, at 6:51 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
> On 24 December 2010 03:41, John M McIntosh
> <johnmci at smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote:
>> Apple is moving towards code signing for all binaries. The impact of that on independent developers is unknown. However in order to distribute squeak or a cog vm via the os-x app store everything has to be signed. This includes the Vm and all the plugin binaries. One can choose to distribute outside the os-x app store, but I think? the community would like to see squeak and cog in the os-x store?
> Well, i am new on the Mac field.
> I hope Esteban having a developer license to sign our official
> binaries in future, because i'm not in the mood of becoming a
> 'licensed' developer.
> I am just a hacker who passing by :)
>> On 2010-12-23, at 6:30 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>> On 24 December 2010 02:51, John M McIntosh
>>> <johnmci at smalltalkconsulting.com> wrote:
>>>> Oh and btw you'll need to look into the signing logic, I'm not quite sure where that gem of copy protection sits but don't be surprised if
>>>> Apple pursues it a bit more aggressively...
>>> well. i cut it out of my Cog on mac os.. because one don't needs a license.
>>> On iOS does.. but Cog doesn't runs there :)
>>> But correct me if i wrong.
>>>> mmm other thoughts.
>>>> The plugins *could* be just the raw binaries ala unix builds. The only reason they were bundles is because in early 2000 era we ran os-9 and os-x flavors.
>>>> That could be all dropped, and maybe just forgo creating plugin bundles.
>>> Thanks for details, i added an issue ticket to not forget this.
>> John M. McIntosh <johnmci at smalltalkconsulting.com> Twitter: squeaker68882
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> Best regards,
> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
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