[Vm-dev] Blocking inappropriate posts to vm-dev (was: VM build questions from last board meeting)

Jan Barger barniisk at gmail.com
Fri Mar 30 05:17:49 UTC 2018


GAME OVER :)

One pair of my smelly socs ws  giga-scale, giga-hertz SoCs

2018-03-30 5:26 GMT+02:00 Jan Barger <barniisk at gmail.com>:

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>> Much of the stability issues are not related to speed but to the
>> conversion to 64-bits,
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> What i see on Eliot web pages are these most often occured words:
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> fast     ( cogblog )
> double its speed      ( VW )
> chip design support  ( hic current company )
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> But, where are the nice and beutiful high ideas like these from Allan Kay
> and others?
> Where are final simlicity and usability?
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> Sorry this Eliot thinking and programming style ( assembler like thinking
> and supit overoptimizations ) is leading to some kind of all asociated
> programmers hell ...
> COG, SPUR whatewer next - he is the number 1. in Open VM and it seems
> nobody else is care about where it leads and how to change it
>
> which is *critical* for our community since over time modern operating
>> systems are making it harder to run 32-bit applications.  A lot of the
>> complexity is probably in the Cog-JIT, so perhaps StackInterpreter build of
>> the VM would provide the balance of stability and speed you desire (@All,
>> how would you rate that option?)
>>
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> Maybe i will try anything where Eliot is not putting his hands.
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>> btw, again I ask...
>> 1. Which OS version were you running Pharo on?
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> Pharo 6.1 on Debian Linux
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>> 2. Were you running 32-bit or 64-bit Pharo?
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> Both version, old images and vm work OK
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>> 3. Which links did you download Pharo from?  i.e. what is the
>> version/date of both VM and Image?   Often we can advise that specific
>> VM/Image has a known bug that has since been fixed.
>>
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> http://pharo.org/web/download
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> I will try squeak, and then give you my opinion. But i preffer Pharo for
> Seaside support and style and more proffesional look of webpage and
> previous good images and vms.
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> Jan.
> www.mageo.club
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Ing. Jan Barger

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