[Newbies] Re: Beginners Digest, Vol 30, Issue 38 re Squeak.org Unavailability

[Bruce Prior]

I, too, cannot connect to Squeak.org or its associated websites. This 
has been the case for about 5 days now. A message from the maintainers 
telling us the status would be helpful.

Bruce Prior

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>    1. Re: Problem filing out change set (Yoshiki Ohshima)
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> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:46:47 -0700
> From: Yoshiki Ohshima <yoshiki at vpri.org>
> Subject: Re: [Newbies] Problem filing out change set
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>>But, in trying to decipher the error message, I thought it might be referring to the new constant. I'm still mystified
>>as to what the error message means, or what it refers to, or why I got it. Perhaps, as Yoshiki suggests, it's a bug.
>>(The image which I'm using is 3.9-final-7067.)
> 
> 
>   Perhaps?  It is a bug, and that is nasty enough to confuse a newbie.
> In a sense, the logic bug has been around since 2001, when
> DeepCopier>>checkClass: as written in a way that provides a short-term
> fulfilment with some assumptions.  Then, the casual addition of method
> properties at 3.9 broke the assumptions and now you see the problem.
> 
> 
>>What fixed it? I recompiled Float, and then reinitialized it. Now I can file out the new change set without getting the
>>error message. But, being a newbie, I don't know why this fixed it (since it was recompiled when I first added the new
>>class constant, and I had also reinitialized the Float class after that). And I still have no idea what the error
>>message means. And looking at the comments in DeepCopier didn't help a bit.
> 
> 
>   Heh, you also need to look at the code^^;
> 
>   If you add Phi to Float, and open the change sorter and select
> Float, you see a message that says: "Class definition was changed."
> 
>   Then, if you look at the code ChangeSet>>fileOutClassDefinition:on:,
>   it has a block:
> 
>   (self atClass: class includes: #change) ifTrue: [...]
> 
> the check is wrong. if the change is only the class variables, it
> shouldn't be true.
> 
>   So, you probably created a new change by entering a new project or
> such.  And the change doesn't know about the class var addition.
> Then, it wouldn't complain.
> 
> -- Yoshiki
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 16:05:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: futuhat <futuhat at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Newbies] Applets in Squeak
> To: beginners at lists.squeakfoundation.org
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> 
> hiya all!
> 
> i've created a link to my project. the thing is: it opens but looks as if
> it's been scrunched up and black margins, above and below, appear. i've
> noticed that the "display mode" menu enables "scale to fit" option and i
> think that's the reason why the margins appear. is there any way to enable
> "no scaling" instead "scale to fit" everytime the browser opens a project?
> 
> ta very much!