[Newbies] Multi user Squeak image via Croquet

[Tobias Pape]

Hi 

> On 2. Aug 2022, at 19:53, Yoshiki Ohshima <yoshiki.ohshima at acm.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> (I am working on a few croquet.io projects.) Trying to run the current way of how Squeak works and making it "croquetified" has some challenges. One is that a Squeak image typically uses 50MB, 100MB, or more memory, and that means that the "snapshots" that Croquet takes and sends over the network now and then can be quite expensive. (At the same time, as we know, most of the contents in an image is read only; we can imagine to have a different image structure where the read only part is separate and only the new stuff is exchanged.)
> 
> Another issue is to ensure determinism. There may not be too many issues around it, as the old Squeak based Croquet has shown; but the current Morphic itself probably does not work out of the box in this regard.
> 
> An alternative approach is to have a different execution engine, or a translator from Smalltalk to JavaScript. I actually gave a talk recently on that idea (and other things):
> 
> https://youtu.be/E3og3l5kKes?t=1353
> 
> If you enable English subtitles on YouTube, you can get the gist of what I was talking about. The implementation of it is available here:
> 
> https://github.com/yoshikiohshima/smallroom

This reminds me of the Orca idea from a few years back:
	https://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/projects/orca/index.html

Best regards
	-Tobias

> 
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 5:30 AM Jiri R. <jiriq at icloud.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> The is croquet.io which allows "multiple users to work or play together within a single shared distributed environment". I wonder whether it is possible to take a squeak image and make it that single shared distributed environment. So multiple users would have some sort of UI (with system browser, workspaces, ..) and be able to work on a single underlining model (the squeak image).
> 
> Jiri
> 
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