[Newbies] Multi user Squeak image via Croquet

[Yoshiki Ohshima]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 10:20 AM Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi
>
> > On 2. Aug 2022, at 19:53, Yoshiki Ohshima <yoshiki.ohshima at acm.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > (I am working on a few croquet.io projects.) Trying to run the current
> way of how Squeak works and making it "croquetified" has some challenges.
> One is that a Squeak image typically uses 50MB, 100MB, or more memory, and
> that means that the "snapshots" that Croquet takes and sends over the
> network now and then can be quite expensive. (At the same time, as we know,
> most of the contents in an image is read only; we can imagine to have a
> different image structure where the read only part is separate and only the
> new stuff is exchanged.)
> >
> > Another issue is to ensure determinism. There may not be too many issues
> around it, as the old Squeak based Croquet has shown; but the current
> Morphic itself probably does not work out of the box in this regard.
> >
> > An alternative approach is to have a different execution engine, or a
> translator from Smalltalk to JavaScript. I actually gave a talk recently on
> that idea (and other things):
> >
> > https://youtu.be/E3og3l5kKes?t=1353
> >
> > If you enable English subtitles on YouTube, you can get the gist of what
> I was talking about. The implementation of it is available here:
> >
> > https://github.com/yoshikiohshima/smallroom
>
> This reminds me of the Orca idea from a few years back:
>         https://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/projects/orca/index.html
>

Nice! Even better, It is a C5 paper with familiar names.
-- 
-- Yoshiki
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