[Newbies] Multi user Squeak image via Croquet

[Yoshiki Ohshima]

This is probably beyond the scope of the "Newbies" mailing list, but how
did Orca handle non-local returns?

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 10:29 AM Yoshiki Ohshima <Yoshiki.Ohshima at acm.org>
wrote:

>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 10:20 AM Tobias Pape <Das.Linux at gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> > On 2. Aug 2022, at 19:53, Yoshiki Ohshima <yoshiki.ohshima at acm.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > (I am working on a few croquet.io projects.) Trying to run the current
>> way of how Squeak works and making it "croquetified" has some challenges.
>> One is that a Squeak image typically uses 50MB, 100MB, or more memory, and
>> that means that the "snapshots" that Croquet takes and sends over the
>> network now and then can be quite expensive. (At the same time, as we know,
>> most of the contents in an image is read only; we can imagine to have a
>> different image structure where the read only part is separate and only the
>> new stuff is exchanged.)
>> >
>> > Another issue is to ensure determinism. There may not be too many
>> issues around it, as the old Squeak based Croquet has shown; but the
>> current Morphic itself probably does not work out of the box in this regard.
>> >
>> > An alternative approach is to have a different execution engine, or a
>> translator from Smalltalk to JavaScript. I actually gave a talk recently on
>> that idea (and other things):
>> >
>> > https://youtu.be/E3og3l5kKes?t=1353
>> >
>> > If you enable English subtitles on YouTube, you can get the gist of
>> what I was talking about. The implementation of it is available here:
>> >
>> > https://github.com/yoshikiohshima/smallroom
>>
>> This reminds me of the Orca idea from a few years back:
>>
>> https://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/projects/orca/index.html
>>
>
> Nice! Even better, It is a C5 paper with familiar names.
> --
> -- Yoshiki
>
>

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-- Yoshiki
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