[Pharo-users] [pharo-users] Can't Load Magma in Pharo 1.3

Mon Dec 5 15:44:05 UTC 2011

On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 8:22 AM, jtuchel <jtuchel at objektfabrik.de> wrote:

> Hi Mariano,
>
> thanks a lot for your tip. So it seems like method
> ConfigurationOfMaClientServer>>#version13: needs to be updated. It loads
> V4.4.0 of OSProcess.
>
> spec
>                        project: 'MaBase' with: '1.0';
>                        project: 'OSProcess' with: '4.4.0'.
>
> So there is the next question: A look at ConfigurationOfOSProcess reveals
> that version440 loads package OSProcess-dtl.59 , as of today, the latest
> version on squeak source is OSProcess-dtl.66.mcz.
>
> How can I find out which one between 59 and 66 is the right one? Or maybe I
>

Only their developers know.

> shouldn't worry about it, but look at ConfigurationOfOSProcess instead...
> But searching for ConfigurationOfOSProcess on Squeaksource doesn't bring up
> any results.

The problem is so well know that we should find a name for it.....
it is simple: the guys who do the project, do not do/maintain the Metacello
configurations.

> So should I be using the MonticelloBrowser to look at
> MetacelloRepository?
>
>
Yes, you can.

> I tried it on http:://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository and
> surprisingly found out that I have the very latest version of
> ConfigurationOfOSProcess loaded: ConfigurationOfOSProcess-mt.17
>
> So it seems both ConfigurationOfOSProcess and
> ConfigurationOfMagmaClientServer (and therefor I guess all dependent
> configurations) need an update...
>
>
Welcome to the real world: nobody updates the configurations. Not even when
the load doesn't work.
In the case of Magma and OSProcess nor of their developers did/maintain the
configurations. I am not saying they shuld. everybody do as much as they
can/want, I am just explaining you why it has not been updated.

> Coming from Envy I find this whole Metacello stuff both a big improvement
> over Monticello and a bit low level. But maybe the last one is just a
> question of re-educating myself ;-)
>

>From my point of view, the problem is not the tool, but how people use it.

> Still I am a bit puzzled about what I could do to make Magma load cleanly
> into Pharo 1.3, other than fixing that one line in the debugger on every
> load. Being an envy user, seeing a debugger during load leaves a bit of a
> bitter taste in my throat, because chances are you are going to face
> problems that stem from the broken atomicity of a load...
>

yes...

>
> But most of all: thanks for the pointers. I have learned a bit more about
> Metacello today, which is a good thing!
>

Read the chapter if you want to know more about the tool itself :)

>
> Joachim
>
>
>
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