[Seaside-dev] What is our Mission Statement?
Sebastian Sastre
ssastre at seaswork.com
Mon May 18 11:51:25 UTC 2009
ok about the draft but it has not a mission on it. It has a description of what
the artifact is.
A mission is still missing.
cheers,
sebastian
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: seaside-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> [mailto:seaside-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] En
> nombre de Lukas Renggli
> Enviado el: Monday, May 18, 2009 04:22
> Para: Seaside - developer list
> Asunto: Re: [Seaside-dev] What is our Mission Statement?
>
> I started with an initial draft:
>
> http://www.seaside.st/about/mission
>
> Please feel free to comment, add, remove and change. It should reamin
> short and to the point though.
>
> Lukas
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Philippe Marschall
> <philippe.marschall at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2009/5/17 Sebastian Sastre <ssastre at seaswork.com>:
> >>
> >>> +1
> >>> Examples:
> >>> http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/makinggwtbetter.html
> >>> http://wicket.apache.org/vision.html
> >>> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5.1/
> >>>
> >>> > I am afraid, that if we try to satisfy everybody
> >>> > we become indistinct.
> >>>
> >>> It's not the indistinct that worries but we simply don't have the
> >>> resources to do it and we'd lose focus.
> >>>
> >> if we succeed in satisfying everybody we become plain
> mediocre not just indistinct. And as Philippe says, no
> resources to even try it.
> >> Also I found those examples mediocres. We should not
> benchmark those. I can't read more than the first line of any
> of those without having to puke due to technical stuff. I
> don't want it to happen to the "seaside statement".
> >> I know Seaside has everything to be much more than that.
> >> Brutal truth: right now we suck because not only don't
> have one statment, we have like 3 to 6 rotating statments
> which, I'm sorry to the one who created it, comunication
> skill sucks or it's a genious if the goal is to succeed in
> confusing people about what the product is about.
> >> The most powerful statement I've found is the one from
> Yukihiro Matsumoto made for ruby.
> >> Matz said "Ruby is designed to make programmers happy."
> >> No bullshit + big focus + no technical crap = huge spread
> capabilities.
> >> If a statement like that can be created for seaside we'll
> have chances of being marketed decently. Otherwise the
> mission statement will born and remain invisible.
> >
> > I disagree. In my view the missing statement is for us so
> that we can
> > decide what should go in and what not.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Philippe
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