[Seaside-dev] What is our Mission Statement?

[Conrad Taylor]

I was thinking about a possible mission statement for Seaside that reads as
following:
The goal of the Seaside project is to create a web development framework
that makes
building both simple and complex web applications fun.

Just my 2 cents,

-Conrad

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:51 AM, Sebastian Sastre <ssastre at seaswork.com>wrote:

> ok about the draft but it has not a mission on it. It has a description of
> what
> the artifact is.
> A mission is still missing.
> cheers,
> sebastian
>
> > -----Mensaje original-----
> > De: seaside-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> > [mailto:seaside-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] En
> > nombre de Lukas Renggli
> > Enviado el: Monday, May 18, 2009 04:22
> > Para: Seaside - developer list
> > Asunto: Re: [Seaside-dev] What is our Mission Statement?
> >
> > I started with an initial draft:
> >
> >    http://www.seaside.st/about/mission
> >
> > Please feel free to comment, add, remove and change. It should reamin
> > short and to the point though.
> >
> > Lukas
> >
> > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Philippe Marschall
> > <philippe.marschall at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 2009/5/17 Sebastian Sastre <ssastre at seaswork.com>:
> > >>
> > >>> +1
> > >>> Examples:
> > >>> http://code.google.com/webtoolkit/makinggwtbetter.html
> > >>> http://wicket.apache.org/vision.html
> > >>> http://tapestry.apache.org/tapestry5.1/
> > >>>
> > >>> > I am afraid, that if we try to satisfy everybody
> > >>> > we become indistinct.
> > >>>
> > >>> It's not the indistinct that worries but we simply don't have the
> > >>> resources to do it and we'd lose focus.
> > >>>
> > >> if we succeed in satisfying everybody we become plain
> > mediocre not just indistinct. And as Philippe says, no
> > resources to even try it.
> > >> Also I found those examples mediocres. We should not
> > benchmark those. I can't read more than the first line of any
> > of those without having to puke due to technical stuff. I
> > don't want it to happen to the "seaside statement".
> > >> I know Seaside has everything to be much more than that.
> > >> Brutal truth: right now we suck because not only don't
> > have one statment, we have like 3 to 6 rotating statments
> > which, I'm sorry to the one who created it, comunication
> > skill sucks or it's a genious if the goal is to succeed in
> > confusing people about what the product is about.
> > >> The most powerful statement I've found is the one from
> > Yukihiro Matsumoto made for ruby.
> > >> Matz said "Ruby is designed to make programmers happy."
> > >> No bullshit + big focus + no technical crap = huge spread
> > capabilities.
> > >> If a statement like that can be created for seaside we'll
> > have chances of being marketed decently. Otherwise the
> > mission statement will born and remain invisible.
> > >
> > > I disagree. In my view the missing statement is for us so
> > that we can
> > > decide what should go in and what not.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Philippe
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