[SoC] topics

[Todd Blanchard]

I have read the Ruby on Rails book in a study group and built a  
trivial application with it just to see.  I suspect I still have it  
installed on this machine somewhere or other.  I also work in Seaside  
every day and have experience with other frameworks like WebObjects  
and the whole J2EE nightmare.

So I think I have a pretty good idea where Seaside falls short -  
mostly it is on the persistence layer.

Where can I access the proposals?

-Todd Blanchard

On Mar 29, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Ralph Johnson wrote:

> The proposals tend to fall into several categories, and there are some
> proposals that are very similar.  There are in fact five proposals
> (from four people) that propose adding a module to Seaside to make it
> like Ruby on Rails.  I think that this topic has the biggest potential
> to make an impact.  Seaside is powerful, but it is not easy to learn
> for people who do not already know Smalltalk well.  If there was a
> "Seaside on Sails" that was as easy to learn as Ruby on Rails, Seaside
> (and Squeak) could really take off.
>
> It looks to me like these proposals are being overlooked by the
> mentors, perhaps because none of us are web developers or have used
> Ruby on Rails.  I haven't use it either, but I have read the
> documentation and I can see why it has made such a big impact.  I'd
> love to see Squeak capture some of that market.  So, I urge mentors to
> read these proposals and to vote on them.
>
> There are a lot of tool-oriented proposals.  I tend to like them, but
> other mentors do, too, so I won't say much about them.
>
> There are a couple of proposals to make something like "rake" for
> Squeak.  I don't understand these.  I've built several large systems
> in Smalltalk and never felt the need for make.  I don't know rake, and
> when I read the proposals I feel like I am missing something.  Could
> someone explain why we need something like this?
>
> -Ralph
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