There are new version 
	a mean alpha
	you should at least take 2.8
	go into one of the doanload sites and take a 2.8 on your platform.
	
	STef


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> >From: Bob Arning <arning at charm.net>
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> >To: <squeak at cs.uiuc.edu>
> >Subject: Re: Morphic slow in 2.8 (was: Forecast)
> >Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 19:21:40 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> 
> What is this 2.8, 2.9a Squeak I keep hearing about? The highest I've ever 
> seen was 2.7, and that was a Squeak.org.
> 
> Adam
> 
> >On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:33:40 -0600 David Farber <dfarber at numenor.com> 
> >wrote:
> > >Bob - i ran your test. here is what i got:
> > >
> > >in 2.7:
> > > - 648 tallies, 13950 msec.
> > >**Leaves**
> > >36.7 DisplayScreen>>forceToScreen:
> > >27.6 GrafPort>>copyBits
> > >5.7 PasteUpMorph>>displayWorld
> > >2.2 Rectangle>>top
> > >
> > >in 2.8:
> > >- 990 tallies, 21762 msec.
> > >**Leaves**
> > >35.7% {7769ms} BalloonEngine>>copyLoopFaster
> > >21.9% {4766ms} GrafPort>>copyBits
> > >10.8% {2350ms} DisplayScreen>>forceToScreen:
> > >
> > >does this help?
> >
> >David,
> >
> >I think it does. I have included my results for 2.7 and 2.8 below. Note 
> >that they are quite similar overall even though the 2.8 version has the 
> >gradient fill while the 2.7 does not. Your results however, show a big 
> >increase from 2.7 to 2.8 and a huge amount of time in the Balloon engine 
> >just doing the background. This leads me to wonder if the VM you are using 
> >for 2.8 has the Balloon stuff builtin (or in the right place externally). 
> >Maybe some other Windows users can tell us if they are seeing similar 
> >changes.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Bob
> >
> >2.7 Mac G3/400  - 360 tallies, 7044 msec.
> >
> >**Leaves**
> >14.4 GrafPort>>copyBits
> >7.8 Rectangle>>left
> >5.0 Rectangle>>top
> >3.9 Rectangle(ProtoObject)>>ifNil:
> >3.9 Rectangle>>bottom
> >3.1 SystemWindow(Morph)>>fullBounds
> >2.8 Point>>+
> >2.5 Array(SequenceableCollection)>>do:
> >2.5 Array(SequenceableCollection)>>reverseDo:
> >2.2 Rectangle>>right
> >
> >2.8 Mac G3/400  - 336 tallies, 7132 msec.
> >
> >and
> >**Leaves**
> >20.8% {1483ms} GrafPort>>copyBits
> >8.9% {635ms} BalloonEngine>>copyLoopFaster
> >4.5% {321ms} Rectangle>>top
> >3.6% {257ms} Rectangle>>right
> >3.0% {214ms} DisplayScreen>>forceToScreen:
> >2.7% {193ms} Rectangle>>bottom
> >2.7% {193ms} Rectangle>>left
> >2.4% {171ms} FormCanvas>>isVisible:
> >2.4% {171ms} AlignmentMorph>>fullBounds
> >
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