Alejandro, this is very interesting.

I remember you told me about this long time ago, and I
still have the same doubts: How stable are the images
produced with this process? The final image includes
only methods that have been activated in the nurturing
process, right? What about the methods that have not
been activated, but that are needed later? How long do
you have to nurture an image before it stabilizes?
Does it stabilize at all?

I guess at some point you would be able to generate a
new image for the child, start a new vm and continue
the nurturing process through the network. Are you
doing that?

Please try to realise this project under the Squeak-L.
A lot of us are eager to play with it.
Luciano.-


--- "Alejandro F. Reimondo"
<aleReimondo at smalltalking.net> wrote:
> Hi Göran,
> 
> > Wow! I have never seen anything like this in
> Squeak before. Very
> > impressive!
> 
> Yes, it is impressive also for us :-)
> The FractalPlants image (124k) is the bigger image
> we have created.
> Images normally takes 64-100kb but do very little
> things...
> 
> > A humble little question: Is there any chance your
> work would result in
> > some little tool for creating such small images?
> Under Squeak-L?
> 
> If it is really needed we can ask for a permition to
> made
>  it under Squeak-L.
> 
> > Hehe. Now if we could get a nice binding with a
> good crossplatform UI
> > toolkit (Gtk or wxWindows etc) and a superfast
> Jitter from Ian and/or
> > Marcus then Squeak would become REALLY attractive
> to a lot of
> > developers. ;-)
> 
> Out images can determine the minimum requirements
> for the VM...
> They can also be used to build the minimum VM that
> can run them.
> 
> regards,
> Ale.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <goran.hultgren at bluefish.se>
> To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
> <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Mythical small kernel images?
> 
> 
> > "Alejandro F. Reimondo"
> <aleReimondo at smalltalking.net> wrote:
> > > You can also build images with even smaller
> footprint
> > >  using and alternative like the SystemTracer.
> > > Here I attach two images in binary format that
> > >  can work on win* machines (use FFI during
> runtime)
> > >  one of  62kb and the other of 120kb
> > > They are runtime only, like java programs...
> > > Ale.
> >
> > Wow! I have never seen anything like this in
> Squeak before. Very
> > impressive!
> >
> > A humble little question: Is there any chance your
> work would result in
> > some little tool for creating such small images?
> Under Squeak-L?
> >
> > Hehe. Now if we could get a nice binding with a
> good crossplatform UI
> > toolkit (Gtk or wxWindows etc) and a superfast
> Jitter from Ian and/or
> > Marcus then Squeak would become REALLY attractive
> to a lot of
> > developers. ;-)
> >
> > regards, Göran
> >
> > PS. Marcus - how is it going with your project?
> Just curious. :-)
> >
> >
> 
> 


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