>> I will find a way to turn around that. But if you look in the book of
>> mark or in the book of goreniek they all have to deal with "getting
>> started with" and explaining what is an image, a vm.....
>
> Well, yes but it depends on your target audience. Mark's target are CS
> students for the most part and I think it's okay to tell them about 
> "image",
> "vm", "sources", and "changes". You were referring to "teachers" and I
> implied school teachers not university professors.

In fact book one is targeted towards teachers and fathers :)
and book two university student.
>
> BTW: On general grounds I would recommend that if your book comes with 
> a CD
> to put the things people need on that CD and name them appropriately.
> Alternatively (if no CD) just make up a web site for the book (which 
> is a
> good idea anyways considering errata etc) and put the things people 
> need
> there. In any case - I think that while it may be worthwile to point 
> people
> to a place where they might get the "latest version" you should not 
> rely on
> that your examples work with any random Squeak version. Which seems 
> like a
> strong argument to include a particular version with the book.

I will do that anyway, but my point was more on having a good package 
for versions.
Having the ...full.gz (which includes sources....plugging) is already a 
good step in that direction

> Cheers,
>   - Andreas
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On
>> Behalf Of Stephane Ducasse
>> Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 5:48 PM
>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
>> Subject: Re: A squeak3.4 VM will be needed
>>
>>
>> Hi alan
>>
>> I know I was playing with Squeak inside web-browsers and this is
>> clearly the way to go
>> in terms of out of the box impression.
>>
>> I was not clear with my point. Now if a person (first year student
>> wants to play with squeak) there is no easy installer for mac
>> or PC as
>> far as I know. So my low-level solution was to have a consistency in
>> terms of name and to avoid to have
>> squeak3.4image and squeak3.2b8 vm.
>>
>> No more than that.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> I will find a way to turn around that. But if you look in the book of
>> mark or in the book of goreniek they all have to deal with "getting
>> started with" and explaining what is an image, a vm.....
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 05:38 PM, Alan Kay wrote:
>>
>>> Stef --
>>>
>>> I have been trying this on several new machines and Michael
>> Rueger's
>>> installers really work very well.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> ------
>>>
>>> At 4:11 PM +0100 1/19/03, Stephane Ducasse wrote:
>>>> Andreas I forgot to tell you that I ***have*** (and this
>> is boring)
>>>> to write somehow a chapter to explain how to start squeak
>> on at least
>>>> two mainstream OS ;). So if Squeak would have consistent
>> installers
>>>> this would really help me.
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>>
>> Dr. Stéphane DUCASSE (ducasse at iam.unibe.ch)
>> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/
>>   "if you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
>>   different? ... especially if, by doing something different, today
>>   might not be your last day on earth" Calvin&Hobbes
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Dr. Stéphane DUCASSE (ducasse at iam.unibe.ch) 
http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/
  "if you knew today was your last day on earth, what would you do
  different? ... especially if, by doing something different, today
  might not be your last day on earth" Calvin&Hobbes