FW: Convincing a harvester (was on SqF list)

Swan, Dean Dean_Swan at mitel.com
Tue May 6 14:53:54 UTC 2003


I sent this last night, and for some reason it didn't seem to make it to the list so this is a resend...

			-Dean

-----Original Message-----
From: Swan, Dean 
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:44 PM
To: 'The general-purpose Squeak developers list'
Subject: RE: Convincing a harvester (was on SqF list)


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Vainsencher [mailto:danielv at netvision.net.il]
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:06 PM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Subject: RE: Convincing a harvester (was on SqF list)

> The initiative about EVERYTHING ELSE, lies with the community. 
> 
> Everybody - 
> We WONT remember your issue for you. It's not that it isn't 
> important -
> its just YOUR issue. You care MORE about it than we do. You know it
> BETTER. Why should you wait for us to do something about it? You don't
> expect the state to take care of your child's education do 
> you? (hmm, bad
> example? ;-)
> 
> By all means, fix it, and put the issue back on the table again.

Hi Daniel,

	Ok, well then... I posted a fix some time ago for the bizarre
compiler error messages related to use of the -- all -- category in
the system browser.

	I then got feedback from Göran, Andreas, and Doug, posted
subsequent fixes for the problems they found, reposted the "final"
changeset to make sure it got on the automated [FIX] list.

	I haven't noticed this [FIX] included in any of the 3.6a
updates.  How about it?  Has nobody but me ever tried adding a
method to a class without first clicking on a method category
in the browser?

	This is a small, simple fix of something that is fundamentally
broken.  I am assuming that the system browser won't be stripped from
the basic image, and EVERYBODY (except maybe Craig and Tim) needs the
system browser to do nearly anything useful with Squeak?

	I'm not sure why this bothers me so.  After all, *my* system
browser is fixed and the changeset seems to load into 3.4 okay.  I do
have the feeling though that Squeak is a bit stuck in the mud.

	I know it's a lot of work to keep up with, and perhaps too much
for you guys to keep up with.  I know this is all volunteer effort, but
maybe it really needs full time support.  It's easy for us to overlook,
but when SqC was cranking great stuff out on a regular basis, Squeak *was*
their day job.

						-Dean

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