Namespaces and Classboxes (and finally a link!)

Alexandre Bergel bergel at iam.unibe.ch
Fri Apr 2 17:04:00 UTC 2004


Ok, try now. It should be okay I guess.

Alexandre


On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 06:20:01PM +0200, Andreas Raab wrote:
> Hm...
>     Error occurred during install:
>     ClassBox>>activeProcess
> And then the system is dead...
> 
> Cheers,
>   - Andreas
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alexandre Bergel" <bergel at iam.unibe.ch>
> To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
> <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2004 5:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Namespaces and Classboxes (and finally a link!)
> 
> 
> > Hi all!
> >
> > This thread is a good motivation to release something. On SqueakMap I have
> created two packages: Classbox and ClassboxBrowser. It is pretty messy, a
> lot of names are not well chosen, I just need time to clean it a bit.
> Unfortunately I cannot spend the amount of time I would like on this stuff.
> >
> > The model is more or less okay. One good startpoint is to read the test
> class VMNormal>>testClassExtension1. It shows some basic stuff.
> >
> > The browser is far from being finished. However its use is illustrated on
> a page containing several screenshots where you can see classboxes in action
> :-)
> > http://kilana.unibe.ch:9090/classboxes/classboxtutorial/
> >
> > I would be really glad for any comment.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Alexandre
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 02, 2004 at 11:11:25AM +0100, goran.krampe at bluefish.se wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > =?ISO-8859-1?Q?st=E9phane_ducasse?= <ducasse at iam.unibe.ch> wrote:
> > > > Hi goran
> > > >
> > > > not all the namespace are bad. Do not confuse java bad design and
> > > > namespace.
> > > > Java package are just shortcuts. Also VisualWorks did some pretty bad
> > > > choices: importing a namespace at the class level sucks.
> > > >
> > > > Read our classbox paper (you will get soon near you a version
> running).
> > >
> > > Got a fresh pointer?
> > >
> > > > This is a bit old now and
> > > > we got a much better paper that we can send on demand (because this is
> > > > under submission).
> > >
> > > Well, no rush.
> > >
> > > Anyway, I just get nervous when people start talking about namespaces.
> > > :) Not because the concept is bad in itself - but that I think we must
> > > do something different from the others in order to keep the "good
> > > values" of Squeak/Smalltak today.
> > >
> > > But it sounds like you are thinking along the same lines.
> > >
> > > regards, Göran
> >
> > -- 
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> > Alexandre Bergel  http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~bergel
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> 

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