On Feb 22, 2005, at 21:38, ivan.tomek at acadiau.ca wrote:
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> Start by formulation what you want the logo to express. Put it in a 
> few words
> before drawing: Openness, flexibility, adventure, innovation, pink 
> plane/blue
> plane, historical connotation, open community, power, human face, etc.

Something like:

http://www.dvdanswerman.com/images/artwork/labels/rlabel/rescuers.jpg

:-)
> Once this is done, why not ask somebody with professional background 
> in logo design
> for advice on actual implementation and technical issues - simplicity,
> reproducibility (printed version), sense of relatedness to earlier 
> logos,
> ability to survive evolution of design technology, etc. After all, you 
> are all
> great computer whizzes but how many of you are logo/trademark 
> designers as
> well?
>
> I hope you don't mind my intrusion.
>
> Ivan
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> Quoting Dan Ingalls <Dan at SqueakLand.org>:
>
>> G–ran  wrote...
>>> Bert Freudenberg <bert at impara.de> wrote:
>>>> Am 21.02.2005 um 19:11 schrieb Pavel Krivanek:
>>>>> StÈphane asked me if I can produce some stylish balloons. Here's 
>>>>> one.
>>>>> Is
>>>>> there a time to update Squeak's presentation graphics?
>>>>
>>>> Awesome!
>>>
>>> What can I say, that is stylish indeed! This balloon with the new web
>>> site style should look pretty good - sbut, it is not as playful 
>>> anymore
>>> - could we perhaps throw in some little thingy there somewhere 
>>> keeping
>>> that colourful playful feeling too?
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>> I like the graphic, but I agree it could use some humanization.  I 
>> kind of
>> miss the passengers, since the original concept was that the balloon 
>> was a
>> vehicle.  Of course, that's all IMHO.
>>
>> Quite a while ago I came across a wonderful book with a rodent hero 
>> who (I
>> think) personifies the Squeaky spirit.  (I like his hat, too).  If I 
>> were an
>> artist, I'd try to get him into the basket, with either a bottle of 
>> champagne
>> or a telescope.  [just saw Markus G's similar thought]
>>
>> Here's a link (my msg got too big and bounced when I put in a scan)...
>> 	http://www.childhoodbooks.com/si/66789.html
>>
>> Of course, there's a copyright on this particular image, but it's 
>> just to
>> give an idea.  Helen Craig might be happy for Tyler to become a 
>> mascot.
>>
>> On the other hand, it's not good to mix too many things up in art.
>>
>> 	- Dan
>>
>> PS:  Another thought that occurred to me a while ago was to use the 
>> common
>> image of a light bulb over someone's head as a symbol for an idea.  
>> The
>> concept is to make it bigger like a hot air balloon, and show the 
>> person (or
>> mouse) borne aloft by his own idea.  Again, I'm not an artist.
>>
>> PPS:  These are just more ideas. Pavel's graphic is also fine, clean 
>> and
>> simple, all by itself.
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