[squeak-dev] Squeak-dev default browser
Damien Cassou
damien.cassou at gmail.com
Sun Apr 6 16:13:37 UTC 2008
Hi Matthew,
I know that some readers of Squeak By Example have problems with my
squeak-dev images. However, I'm unsure about what to put as a default.
I would like to put the most powerful and updated tools on Squeak and
make them default. If I don't do it, then we will never change our
habits.
In Squeak By Example, I think we were not clear enough about the base
image we chose. Some authors used squeak-dev and others stock Squeak.
What I can do is create a squeak-dev image based on 3.9 and with the
standard browser as the default. I won't update that image so that
beginners don't get confused.
Could you please add the comment you have written inside the
'construction - documentation' category of the DEVImageCreator class?
You have write access to the repository, as everyone else.
I'm very open to discussion on this topic.
On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 9:56 PM, Matthew Fulmer <tapplek at gmail.com> wrote:
> Recently, Squeak-dev has changed the default browser to an
> OmniBrowser derivative, to the annoyance of some people.
>
> Opinions aside, this has caused a lot of confusion among noobs
> in the #squeak IRC channel, where now the single most
> frequently-asked question is:
>
> How do I do <browser action> as described in <tutorial>? Am I
> blind? I don't see that operation in the menu.
>
> Most often, the complaint is with users of the Squeak By Example
> book, but it is also true that EVERY SINGLE TUTORIAL about
> squeak so far illustrates the use of the ST80 browser.
>
> This questions arises about once every three days in #squeak.
>
> The ST80 browser should be made the default browser in
> squeak-dev, but it should be made clear that there are
> alternatives. Toward this end, I made a draft of a page for the
> script-manager in squeak-dev, describing the various browsers,
> and how to switch between them. It is in the form of a method:
>
> http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/5597
>
> However, this only addresses the browser in the open menu; it
> does not address the toolbar buttons at the top of the desktop,
> nor the browser in the Tools flap.
>
> I am also not sure what the OBSmartGroupBrowser is, or why it is
> not listed among the options when selecting a default browser.
>
> I'm also not sure why the RefactoringBrowser is still around. I
> was under the impression that is was abandoned in favor of OB.
>
>
> In this situation, I believe it is preferable to cater to the
> noobs, since those of us who like the OB already know how to
> switch, but, to a noob, this is a brick-wall issue, since this
> is not documented anywhere obvious. Comments welcome
>
> --
> Matthew Fulmer -- http://mtfulmer.wordpress.com/
>
>
--
Damien Cassou
Peter von der Ahé: «I'm beginning to see why Gilad wished us good
luck». (http://blogs.sun.com/ahe/entry/override_snafu)
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