install TraitsBrowser?

stephane ducasse stephane.ducasse at free.fr
Wed Feb 20 10:01:01 UTC 2008


Damien developed Nile (a stream library based on traits) with the  
browser available in the dev image.
It is far from perfect but usable.

Thanks for your support. People have been bashing so much traits  
recently.
Stef


On Feb 19, 2008, at 10:49 AM, Adrian Lienhard wrote:

> Hi Nicolai,
>
> The reason why the old browser does not exist anymore is that it was  
> part of the initial implementation of Nathanael. Since this  
> implementation had grown out of research, it contained many  
> experiments etc. Therefore, Nathanael and I did a clean new  
> implementation of Traits, that is part of 3.9 now. What we did not  
> do is port the old browser extension (which was hackish because of  
> the inherent problems of the Morphic browser). There have been  
> various efforts to implement new GUI support with OmniBrowser, but  
> AFAIK, none has reached the state where it is really stable.
>
> Cheers,
> Adrian
>
> On Feb 19, 2008, at 09:26 , Nicolai Hess wrote:
>
>>
>> After the discussion about traits or no traits I read the paper
>> "Traits: Tools and Methodology" and was just about to ask the same
>> question. Where to find this Traitsbrowser. So now why does this
>> Traitsbrowser not exist anymore? I thought this was very promising.
>> I know in the devimage are Omnibrowser extensions for traits, the one
>> button next to "instance, class, ?" to showing traits, and maybe  
>> some more or
>> less hidden functions. But this traits view is a bit confusing. For  
>> example the
>> class pane slides to the left and what you see in the traitspanel  
>> isnt always a triat
>> but the same class.
>> I also tried the OB-Traitsbrowser(?), is this under further  
>> development ?. The last
>> time I installed this browser, it nearly freezes my image with  
>> terrible long computations
>> (for the dynamic protocols I think).
>>
>>
>> Nicolai
>>
>>
>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
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>>> >
>>> Gesendet: 19.02.08 07:44:00
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>>> >
>>> Betreff: Re: install TraitsBrowser?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Trygve,
>>>
>>> the TraitBrowser as presented in the trait articles does not exist
>>> anymore. You can download an image with it, but it will be an old
>>> Squeak image. I advise you to download a squeak-dev image
>>> http://damien.cassou.free.fr/squeak-dev.html which contains  
>>> necessary
>>> tools to start working with traits. Feel free to ask any question.
>>>
>>>
>>> Bye
>>>
>>> On Feb 18, 2008 9:52 PM, Trygve Reenskaug <trygver at ifi.uio.no>  
>>> wrote:
>>>> There is an excellent home page for Traits:
>>>>  http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~scg/Research/Traits/
>>>> It has several very informative articles; it is wonderful to see a
>>>> package that is built on solid ground.
>>>>
>>>> I miss one very important piece of information: How do I install  
>>>> the
>>>> latest TraitsBrowser?
>>>> (I start from Squeak3.10.gamma.7159 with the addition of my own  
>>>> code)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> --Trygve
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Trygve Reenskaug       mailto: trygver at ifi.uio.no
>>>>
>>>> Morgedalsvn. 5A         http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~trygver
>>>>
>>>> N-0378 Oslo               Tel: (+47) 22 49 57 27
>>>>
>>>> Norway
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Damien Cassou
>>>
>>>
>>
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