On 19.09.2010, at 17:52, Sean P. DeNigris wrote:

> Jimmie Houchin-5 wrote:
>> 
>> I do like the idea of having multiple OS 
>> windows available to the app developer.
>> 
> See Mars[1] 

Multiple host windows does nat imply having to have native widgets:

http://wiki.squeak.org/squeak/3862

> Jimmie Houchin-5 wrote:
>> 
>> So I do understand, certain real world use case requirements for 
>> interfacing outside elements. I just don't believe the UI is really one, 
>> especially when counter examples are so incredibly abundant and are some 
>> of the biggest apps in use anywhere and often written by the OS vendor.
>> 
> iOS?  Esteban said at ESUG that you must have them to be accepted in the app
> store 

Many apps (like games, creativity apps) in the App store come with their own UI and do not use iOS widgets.

> I think whether we individually care or agree with native widgets doesn't
> matter, and wastes valuable resources that could be put to improving Morphic
> ;-).  There are people that want them and if we can provide things that
> people want, great.  I personally won't use native widgets myself for the
> same reasons you mentioned, but I'm happy to have it as an option. 
> 
> [1] http://smallworks.com.ar/en/community/Mars

Yep. Choice is good.

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