Ometa (was Re: [squeak-dev] The 2011 Squeak board election)

Hannes Hirzel hannes.hirzel at gmail.com
Tue Mar 29 16:19:46 UTC 2011


Nikolay,

On 3/29/11, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>
> On 29.03.2011, at 15:48, Nikolay Suslov wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 2:30 PM, Hannes Hirzel <hannes.hirzel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> Nikolay,
>>
>> Another question: You want to make OMeta part of Squeak?
>>
>> Could you please elaborate a bit more about the examples you mention?
>>
>>
>>
>> You could find a lot of information at VPRI wiki. There is the "Text Field
>> Spec for LObjects" project, which was announced in 2010 here:
>> http://www.mail-archive.com/fonc@vpri.org/msg01279.html, basing on the
>> "Mochi" system, as Ted Kaehler said: "It has many half-finished
>> experiments in it, and a fair amount of just plain wreckage".

http://www.vpri.org/pdf/m2010002_lobjects.pdf

Do you think to use this as a base to develop a word processor in
Squeak, or a desktop publishing system, or to revive the 'Dynabook
dynamic essay' idea?




Although
>> there are many of working OMeta's examples for Squeak (ForAll language,
>> SpecParser, Nile), Worlds are also presented there and it is an updatable
>> image.

Could you specify the links more precisely?


Another is Yoshiki's SqueakBootStrapper image with
>> BootStrapEncoder/parser and of course: OMeta/JS wiki.
>> Now thinking, that we need to ask the VPRI team for official permission on
>> using and experimenting with these stuff in Squeak, especially concerning
>> to the image side parts of "Mochi" system. Bert, may be you could bring
>> some clearance on this, please?
>
>
> It's released under MIT, which means you don't need to ask specific
> permission (but note that I am only a contractor to VPRI, cannot speak for
> them).
>


This is a lot -- where you do think you would like to focus on?

--Hannes



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