[squeak-dev] Fwd: [Pharo-project] usability of Pharo and Squeak

Frank Shearar frank.shearar at gmail.com
Tue May 31 08:16:00 UTC 2011


Indeed, I'm starting to think that tiling window managers are the only
actual window managers (as in, if you have to move your windows
around, _you're_ the window manager). A colleague pointed out, when I
questioned his rabid love of tiling, that I've constructed my workflow
in such a way as to turn my non-tiling WM into one, effectively.

Maybe there's a way of easily leveraging Laurent Laffont's new TVM? -
http://magaloma.blogspot.com/2011/05/tiling-window-manager.html

frank

On 31 May 2011 07:22, Michael Haupt <mhaupt at gmail.com> wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Andreas Wacknitz <A.Wacknitz at gmx.de>
> Date: 31 May 2011 08:18
> Subject: [Pharo-project] usability of Pharo and Squeak
> To: Pharo-project at lists.gforge.inria.fr
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have convinced a friend to take a closer look at Pharo 1.2.1 and
> Dolphin Smalltalk. He is an experienced Java developer.
> After some time he started to complain about Pharo. I was discussing
> with him and now think that he has some valid points.
>
> His biggest complaint is: "Why does Pharo always show windows at sizes
> and positions I don't want?"
> I answered him: You could set the standard window size in the class
> RealEstateAgent and furthermore you can create or change
>>>initialExtent methods in every class that is involved.
> But his answer was: Why should I do that? It's the responsibility of
> an IDE. I don't want to program elementary things of my IDE. Why is
> there no mechanism that let a user set the sizes and positions of
> windows? Netbeans and Eclipse are doing that nicely. Why isn't it
> possible in Pharo?
> After that discussion I now question my own way of using Pharo and
> Squeak. I have created some changesets that I used to file in when
> using
> a fresh image. But that seems stupid now...
>
> His second complaint was that he doesn't like the cluttered windows.
> While programming he had a lot of open windows and told me that he
> lost overview.
> Especially in Pharo he is complaining about minimized windows that are
> hard to distinguish. He better likes Dolphin with tabbed windows that
> are common in other IDE's.
>
>
> Regards
> Andreas
>
>



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