On 2012-12-23, at 20:15, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 22 December 2012 23:36, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de> wrote:
>> 
>> On 22.12.2012, at 23:51, Frank Shearar <frank.shearar at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 22 December 2012 21:02, Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Another point: The window opens at 560 at 286 so its bottom-right corner is at 1360 at 886 which might by off of some screens. I'd position it further up to the left, maybe at ((1024 at 768) - (800 at 600)) / 2 ==> 112 at 84
>>>> 
>>>> Past Squeak releases were saved in standard size 800x600, which is a
>>>> good balance between what's needed to operate Squeak, what's available
>>>> on screens, and what's a desired-size operating environment that users
>>>> not wishing to run full-screen would want.  800x600 is a *balanced*
>>>> size.
>>>> 
>>>> 560x286 is non-standard and probably something that will force users
>>>> into a resize gesture before they will do anything.
>>>> 
>>>> So, we should please deploy the image at 800x600.
>> 
>> Chris, when I wrote "position" in the paragraph above I meant precisely that. I did not propose to change the size.
>> 
>>> So I presume that we are actually talking about the window in which
>>> Squeak lives, right?
>> 
>> Yes.
>> 
>>> The extent of the host window?
>> 
>> No.
>> 
>>> The window's the same size as the 4.3 release. I've not altered it.
>>> Note as well that the ReleaseBuilder says 'self setDisplayExtent: 800
>>> @ 600'.
>>> 
>>> frank
>> 
>> We're talking about _where_ the window opens.
> 
> OK. I suspect the reason I've not noticed anything like that is
> because I'm running 1024x768 on a Lucid box. The window opens rather
> close to the top left, pretty much where I'd expect it to. I just
> opened a TrunkImage.image on a Mac and it looks like it opens it right
> in the centre of the screen. Is that what you see?


Indeed it is. I hadn't noticed yet that Eliot's Mac VM opens the window centered, while John's Mac VM opens it in the top-left.

So I retract my remark, there's nothing to do about that for this release :)

- Bert -