[squeak-dev] All-In-One distribution (was: Changing the Trunk version from 6.0alpha to 5.2alpha)

Louis LaBrunda Lou at Keystone-Software.com
Wed Jun 6 13:41:59 UTC 2018

Hi Germán,

Just an FYI, and not to knock Squeak or Pharo you might take a look at
VA Smalltalk http://www.instantiations.com or GemStoneS https://gemtalksystems.com.  May people
use them to develop business and web applications with them.


>Hi Dave:
>I enjoyed a lot smalltalk and its communities but I failed thinking that I
>could make a living with it. Might be my lack of talent but other people
>with an infinite more capability than me failed at same way and my
>stubbornness for use Smalltalk in my business only made me lost lot of time
>and money.
>Of course I miss the technical purity of Smalltalk and objects everywhere,
>but it is not viable, in my pov, to develop massive business applications,
>neither web, nor desktop and much less mobile.
>Just my opinion.
>Saludos / Regards,
>Germán Arduino
>2018-06-01 23:39 GMT-03:00 David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com>:
>> On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 01:01:31PM -0300, Germ??n Arduino wrote:
>> > 2018-06-01 9:33 GMT-03:00 David T. Lewis <lewis at mail.msen.com>:
>> >
>> > > On Fri, Jun 01, 2018 at 12:50:08AM -0700, John Pfersich wrote:
>> > > > Smalltalk is a hobby; I haven???t had an offer for Smalltalk work
>> since
>> > > 2005.
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > >> As with you, Smalltalk is a hobby for me.
>> > >
>> >
>> > I should have realized this before and then I would not have wasted 20
>> > years with Smalltalk, who barely bought me a cup or two of tea :(
>> You should think twice about this. If you thought that Smalltalk was going
>> to make you rich, then you are probably a sad and disappointed person. If
>> you thought that Smalltalk might be a tool to help you think clearly and
>> explore new ideas, then you may be a happy and satisfied person.
>> I don't know if anyone will ever make any money by being happy and
>> satisfied,
>> but I can say that in my own experience that the learning that I have done
>> with Squeak has been a big part of enabling me to make a decent income in
>> the last 10 or 15 years of my professional life.
>> To put it in more concrete terms: I do systems integration work for a
>> manufacturing company, and this involves (among other things) some custom
>> software development (not Squeak, not Smalltalk). I am good at what I
>> do, and I get paid for it. A significant part of the "I am good at what
>> I do" aspect is attributable to Squeak, or more specifically the learning
>> that I have derived from Squeak.
>> So I am a happy "hobby" Smalltalker. I make zero income from Squeak, but I
>> can honestly tell you that a good deal of my actual professional income
>> is supported by my hobby.
>> YMMV,
>> Dave
Louis LaBrunda
Keystone Software Corp.
SkypeMe callto://PhotonDemon

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