Am Di., 2. Apr. 2019 um 22:54 Uhr schrieb Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com
>:

> I understand that you like Metacello and GitInfrastructure and may
> wish to promote their use to others, but as Karl mentioned we already
> have existing places in the IDE dedicated to package installation, we
> should not introduce another new place, especially one so orthogonal
> to its regular purpose.  I guess you wouldn't to see "Installer
> installMagma" in there, right?
>

On the other hand, installing Metacello is nearly every time the first
thing I have to do in a fresh Trunk image to load any projects from GitHub
with their dependencies. The shorter the way to install Metacello, the
better. I was delighted to have it in the menu. Not that I particularly
like Metacello, but I *need* it.

In fact, this menu item is the only one in the Do menu I have ever used.
Well except for the git infrastructure one, but since I developed the
things that it installs, I am biased. Note that it was not me who put the
item on the list, although I felt flattered about it.


> The last entry of the Do menu is "edit this list", this is how it was
> intended to be personalized.  Is that okay?
>

Not if you would first have to edit this list to get your
initialize-your-trunk-image items into it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
On that note, if there was a way to restore the saved list (or preferences
for that matter) quickly from a well-known file name, it should be on that
list. Saving it to the well-known file should be on there too.

Installing the current incarnation of the refactoring tools might be
another good candidate for an image initialization shortlist. I mostly live
without them just because the buttons to install them are too many clicks
away...

Am Di., 2. Apr. 2019 um 22:54 Uhr schrieb Chris Muller <asqueaker at gmail.com
>:

> Hi Marcel,
>
> The Do menu was targeted toward newcomers as a way to introduce some
> basics of Squeak.  It gives the newcomer list of Squeak expressions
> which are generically useful, and have been unchanged since 2002.
>
> I understand that you like Metacello and GitInfrastructure and may
> wish to promote their use to others, but as Karl mentioned we already
> have existing places in the IDE dedicated to package installation, we
> should not introduce another new place, especially one so orthogonal
> to its regular purpose.  I guess you wouldn't to see "Installer
> installMagma" in there, right?
>
> The last entry of the Do menu is "edit this list", this is how it was
> intended to be personalized.  Is that okay?
>
> Best,
>   Chris
>
> PS -- Marcel, can you simply define Metacello and/or GitInfrastructure
> as prerequisites to whatever package(s) require them?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 11:33 AM Marcel Taeumel <marcel.taeumel at hpi.de>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, there.
> >
> > Can you please restore those lines:
> >
> > Installer ensureRecentMetacello.
> > Installer installGitInfrastructure.
> >
> > What is this commit part of? It removes a dot at the end and also the
> recent additions I mentioned above. :-)
> >
> > Best,
> > Marcel
> >
> > Am 02.04.2019 01:09:14 schrieb commits at source.squeak.org <
> commits at source.squeak.org>:
> >
> > Chris Muller uploaded a new version of System to project The Inbox:
> > http://source.squeak.org/inbox/System-cmm.1059.mcz
> >
> > ==================== Summary ====================
> >
> > Name: System-cmm.1059
> > Author: cmm
> > Time: 1 April 2019, 6:08:54.797918 pm
> > UUID: 6ab6befc-9fa5-4aa5-a1b6-3570ba2853b9
> > Ancestors: System-eem.1058
> >
> > Organize configuration scripts in the "Extending The System" workspace
> or SqueakMap.
> >
> > =============== Diff against System-eem.1058 ===============
> >
> > Item was changed:
> > ----- Method: Utilities class>>initializeCommonRequestStrings (in
> category 'common requests') -----
> > initializeCommonRequestStrings
> > "Initialize the common request strings, a directly-editable list of
> expressions that can be evaluated from the 'do...' menu."
> >
> > CommonRequestStrings := StringHolder new contents:
> > + 'Utilities emergencyCollapse.
> > - 'Installer ensureRecentMetacello.
> > - Installer installGitInfrastructure.
> > - -
> > - Utilities emergencyCollapse.
> > Utilities closeAllDebuggers.
> > -
> > Sensor keyboard.
> > ParagraphEditor abandonChangeText.
> > Cursor normal show.
> > -
> > CommandHistory resetAllHistory.
> > Project allInstancesDo: [:p | p displayDepth: 16].
> > ScriptingSystem inspectFormDictionary.
> > Form fromUser bitEdit.
> > Display border: (0 at 0 extent: 640 at 480) width: 2.
> > -
> > Undeclared inspect.
> > Undeclared removeUnreferencedKeys; inspect.
> > Transcript clear.
> > Utilities grabScreenAndSaveOnDisk.
> > FrameRateMorph new openInHand.
> > -
> > Utilities reconstructTextWindowsFromFileNamed: ''TW''.
> > Utilities storeTextWindowContentsToFileNamed: ''TW''.
> > ChangeSorter removeEmptyUnnamedChangeSets.
> > ChangeSorter reorderChangeSets.
> > -
> > ActiveWorld installVectorVocabulary.
> > ActiveWorld abandonVocabularyPreference.
> > + Smalltalk saveAsNewVersion'
> > - Smalltalk saveAsNewVersion.'
> >
> > "Utilities initializeCommonRequestStrings"!
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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