[squeak-dev] Cmd-Shift-9 not working on macOS, in 6.0alpha or 6.0beta

Tim Johnson digit at sonic.net
Sat Jun 4 19:00:17 UTC 2022


Hi Marcel,

Thanks!  The shortcut has returned!  (I also tested on Linux and Windows.)

However, it does seem to be a different shortcut.  On 5.2, the shortcut will /toggle/ enclosing parenthesis.  Whereas in 6.0 it just keeps /adding/ parentheses.  

Is the old mechanism completely gone?

Thanks again,
Tim J


> On Jun 3, 2022, at 1:06 AM, Marcel Taeumel <marcel.taeumel at hpi.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim --
> 
> Fixed via Morphic-mt.1998. Please check. :-)
> 
> I argue that this is an issue with the platform code in the VM. I will put this on the list along with SHIFT being eaten for CTRL+SHIFT combos on Windows and keyDown/keyUp being somewhat broken on Linux/X11.
> 
> Best,
> Marcel
>> Am 03.06.2022 08:11:51 schrieb Tim Johnson <digit at sonic.net>:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> (starting a new thread on this topic)
>> 
>> Cmd-Shift-9 used to work on macOS (as recently as 5.3 and possibly as early as Mac 68k VMs?) to enclose the selection in parentheses. I cannot get it to work in 6.0alpha or 6.0beta on macOS under any circumstance.
>> 
>> Here is a video of this happening, with "legacy keyboard shortcuts" enabled in the startup configuration wizard:
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/BpHonqv3THM
>> 
>> The video shows an M1 Mac running macOS 12.4. I can also reproduce this on a Core i5 MacBook Air running 10.13.6.
>> 
>> Note that I cannot get Cmd-Shift-9 to work with 'legacy keyboard shortcuts' enabled /or/ disabled. In other words: Cmd-Shift-9 doesn't work if I skip the configuration wizard (accepting defaults), nor does it work if I explicitly enable 'legacy keyboard shortcuts' in the configuration wizard. I am on a US keyboard.
>> 
>> Perhaps related: another difference between 5.3 and 6.0beta is in Cmd-9 (without Shift held). On 5.3, Cmd-9 seems to decrease the font kerning so the letters become closer together. On 6.0beta, Cmd-9 underlines text. Is it possible that this change is related to Cmd-Shift-9 no longer working? (Was there some brave & necessary unraveling & reimagining of various layers of keyboard shortcuts over the 6.0 development cycle...?)
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Tim J
>> 
>> PS — I bring this up because no one has explicitly said that Cmd-Shift-9 is gone forever. Sounds like it is expected to still be possible to use this shortcut...? But if it is gone and won't come back, please, tell me, and I will light a candle for it. I may find it challenging to adapt to the new mechanism, because pressing a visible character, with no modifiers held, while text is selected, has a long history of replacing the selected text. But challenges make us stronger, and Squeak is the most flexible system...
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