[Squeak-e] What is E and squeak-e?
Robert Withers
rwithers12 at attbi.com
Sat Feb 1 16:31:17 CET 2003
Shane,
That's great. You and I are in a similar situation. I know a limited
amount about capabilities and even less about how to implement a
language to support them. That is why we are here on this list. In my
understanding, the basic premise is that you can only send a message to
a reference you have. You can get references only a few ways. Someone
basically has to give you the reference to an object. The language and
environment should be secure from leaking references.
I would recommend reading as much as possible on the erights site. It
is very interesting.
cheers,
rob
On Saturday, February 1, 2003, at 02:52 PM, shane at shaneroberts.com
wrote:
> Rob,
> I'm probably familiar with some of the background.
>
> I have been a programmer since 1980 and have followed trends in
> the industry over the years, to a certain extent.
>
> I am familiar with the background of Smalltalk and Squeak.
>
> What I am not familiar with is capabilities, which I only stumbled on
> recently. My interest in the E-list is that I want to understand how
> to
> implement Internet security in relation to distributed objects, secure
> communications, and resisting hacker attacks (not sure there is a
> way to defend against denial of service under the present Internet
> implementation, except for certain router configuration techniques).
>
> Anyway, in skimming through the capabilities literature, it seems
> access lists are considered cumbersome and ineffectual, and that
> "capabilities or better." Thus I am curious to learn more.
>
> Shane
>
> On 1 Feb 2003 at 14:32, Robert Withers wrote:
>
>> Welcome to squeak, Shane.
>>
>> On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 11:56 PM, shane at shaneroberts.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Can someone give me a little background on how this list appeared
>>> and what the topic is?
>>
>> How much background are you looking for? I believe it starts in the
>> late '60s :) There is a lot of history here. See
>> http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/389
>>
>> The list was just formed to take a look at what a secure squeak would
>> look and smell like.
>>
>> see http://www.squeak.org and http://www.erights.org
>>
>> cheers,
>> rob
>>
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