[UI] Re: MenuMorph hand weirdness

[Gary Chambers]

Indeed, the final release, then we'll move our object-base forwards...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org]On Behalf Of Andreas
> Wacknitz
> Sent: 20 November 2007 5:23 PM
> To: Squeak's User Interface
> Subject: Re: [UI] Re: MenuMorph hand weirdness
>
>
> Bill Schwab schrieb:
> > Gary,
> >
> > In terms of describing an interface, I immediately zoom out to the two
> > ways one might approach it: graphical editing, and writing code.  The
> > nature of the GUI editor and the language are "just details."  IMHO,
> > both methods are essential for happy programmers.  I have some GUI
> > generating/translating tools that I would expect to port to whatever
> > Smalltalk system I end up using; they speak MVP.  If I land in Squeak,
> > it will have an MVP framework, if only because I will write one out of
> > frustration :)
> >
> > As I have mentioned before, I am concerned that any MVP work I do would
> > be tainted with Object Arts' intellectual property.  However, if I
> >
> An alternative might be to ask Andy and Blair for an explicit OK to open
> your Squeak MVP framework,
> if the Dolphin buyout fails (which seem to be stalled for some weeks now).
>
> > create a framework (tainted) and my own tests for it (by definition
> > clean - right???), then the tests could be the basis for a clean MVP
> > framework for Squeak.  Any flaws?  It is a lot of wasted work to write
> > and then have someone else rewrite a framework, but it might solve the
> > problem.  At least the rewrite would occur with the benefit of tests.
> >
> > With some cleverness, Morphs as views, native widgets, SVG, etc., are
> > hopefully just different types of views in the framework.
> >
> > As a practical matter, I have a few too many Squeak images for my own
> > good.  I need to archive them all, mine code out of them, and create one
> > image that will move back and forth between Linux and Windows.  Any
> > thoughts on 3.9 vs. 3.10?  For 3.9, I would want the
> > delay/queue/semaphore fixes; IIRC, those are included in 3.10??
> >
> I would go for 3.10 as it seems to be mostly a bug fix release with some
> additional unit tests to me.
> Probably you will want to wait for the final release.
>
> Andreas
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