[UI] Rounded corners [was Re: Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there]

Mon Oct 1 19:19:31 UTC 2007

On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:08:51 +0200, Gary Chambers wrote:

> Is that with or without the UI Enhancements loaded?

That's a good question. Will load UI Enhancements and check (later the  
week).

> I put a lot of effort
> into fixing the corner grip positions and using absolute coordinates,  
> rather
> than deltas, so that the mouse cursor changes appropriately when resizing
> below the minimumExtent of a window (mouse no longer within the grip upon
> mouse release).

Ahh, will be nice :)

> What does "rescue the old bits" mean?

I referred to #saveBitsUnderCornersOf:on:in:corners: which copies the bits  
under potential round corner areas, then the client's block is evaluated,  
then #tweakCornersOf:on:in:borderWidth:corners: puts back some of those  
bits. Impossible with a one dimensional SVG+html stream :( or similiar  
media, for that matter.

During rendering the to-be-rounded Morph does not know that, so I signal a  
RoundedCornersNotification and exchange rounding information between the  
related methods (the borderWidthForRounding I think) which [the methods  
and their receivers] may be far away from each other on the stack. I need  
the "to be rounded" info at the SVG+xhtml element level. Example attached,  
FireFox/Opera and Inkskape recommended, Morph class names are in the  
element id. Magnify to 200% and inspect the corners.

Will see that I can get that working with UI Enhancments.

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
>> Klaus D. Witzel
>> Sent: 01 October 2007 1:07 pm
>> To: ui at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> Subject: [UI] Re: Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
>>
>>
>> The corner handles are inconvenient also when I do #renderOn:
>> a SVG+xhtml
>> canvas. Sometimes they seem to be one off (hard to
>> predict/reproduce) and
>> the implementation (rescue the old bits...) is/does, hrm,
>> does not give
>> you a good time when *not* rendering on a graphics card.
>>
>> I have no suggestion for what/how to do better with them,
>> just my CHF 0.05.
>>
>> On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:26:33 +0200, Gary Chambers wrote:
>>
>> > I could make the title button order available as a
>> preference... For
>> > now you'd need to subclass the UIThemeSoftSqueak and override
>> > #configureWindowLabelAreaFor: with the version for Vistary.
>> Your new
>> > theme subclass will appear in the preferences (you should also
>> > override #themeName on the class side).
>> >
>> > As for the legibility of button text with Vistary, I find
>> it alright
>> > when using a FreeType font...
>> >
>> > As for corner handles, they were a bugger to fix to work
>> properly! I'd
>> > prefer the old border/side behaviour with no handles as
>> such. I could
>> > make
>> > this an option if there's sufficient interest.
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> >> [mailto:ui-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Bill
>> >> Schwab
>> >> Sent: 29 September 2007 3:23 pm
>> >> To: ui at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>> >> Subject: Re: [UI] Fwd: Workspace backgrounds - almost there
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I knew I missed a question in my global reply - the corner
>> handles.
>> >> They do not particularly bother me (I almost like them
>> actually), but
>> >> if they go away, I won't scream about it.  Now that you
>> mention it,
>> >> you're right, they are ugly ;)
>> >>
>> >> Gary, something I just noticed is that the soft squeak
>> theme leaves
>> >> the [x] button on the left of the title bar.  I _think_ I
>> would move
>> >> it to he right.  That said, I gladly defer to you
>> judgement.  BTW, I
>> >> continue to be impressed with your work.  For reasons unknown, I
>> >> switched back to the Vistary theme and noted that you
>> obviously can
>> >> move the close button; at first, I assumed you simply didn't mess
>> >> with the locations.
>> >> I would use the Vistary theme, but I find the buttons
>> >> difficult to read due to the lens effect, or more to the
>> >> point, its location.  Of course, that is largely a result of
>> >> what you set out to emulate.  I can envision writing a hybrid
>> >> theme that has lens effects near rectangle bounds, but
>> that can wait.
>> >>
>> >> Bill
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
>> >> University of Florida
>> >> Department of Anesthesiology
>> >> PO Box 100254
>> >> Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
>> >>
>> >> Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
>> >> Tel: (352) 846-1285
>> >> FAX: (352) 392-7029
>> >>
>> >> >>> asqueaker at gmail.com 09/27/07 10:10 PM >>>
>> >> Looks real good Bill!  I especially like highlighting the items in
>> >> Lists the same as text highlighted in a text pane; a big
>> improvement
>> >> over the red-on-gray list selections of past.
>> >>
>> >> Do you have a mind to ditch the corner handles?  Aren't they ugly?
>> >> Not to mention redundant with the changing of the mouse-pointer.
>> >> I've also noticed (in 3.9 images) they creep out of their bounds
>> >> under certain circumstances like too small a window-title font, or
>> >> maybe square window corners too..
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 9/27/07, Bill Schwab <BSchwab at anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
>> >> > This should do it:
>> >> >
>> >> >  http://needle.anest.ufl.edu/users/wschwab/UI-almost.png
>> >> >
>> >> > Bill
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
>> >> > University of Florida
>> >> > Department of Anesthesiology
>> >> > PO Box 100254
>> >> > Gainesville, FL 32610-0254
>> >> >
>> >> > Email: bschwab at anest.ufl.edu
>> >> > Tel: (352) 846-1285
>> >> > FAX: (352) 392-7029
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >>> Bill Schwab 9/25/2007 11:16:34 PM >>>
>> >> > I did some fiddling to try to reproduce the installation
>> problems I
>> >> > had, added a reminder about the Damien's dev image to
>> the UI swiki
>> >> page,
>> >> > downloaded it, and did an installation of Gary's widgets using
>> >> > Monitcello.  Then I moved my BibTeX helper code into the
>> >> new image.  I
>> >> > appear to have made a happy mistake in the latter,
>> >> capturing a change
>> >> > that I considered redundant, and ended up with more or less
>> >> the visual
>> >> > changes I was trying to create, and grabbed a screenshot
>> >> before I had
>> >> > time to break it :)
>> >> >
>> >> > I will probably send it to Gary as a start.  What is the
>> >> proper way to
>> >> > make it available?  I suppose the easiest thing is to put
>> >> it on my web
>> >> > page, but I have not yet learned how to use Linux to remotely
>> >> > access
>> >> our
>> >> > servers, so I can't do that right now.
>> >> >
>> >> > When it becomes available, you will notice the background
>> >> color of the
>> >> > browser's and debugger's code pane.  I would hope for the
>> >> debugger's
>> >> > inspector panes to be so colored also, though they
>> >> currently show it
>> >> > only for the top line.  Ironically, the workspace in the
>> >> image is not
>> >> > correctly colored, though a newly-created instance has
>> the correct
>> >> > color, though, as in the debugger's inspectors, it shows
>> the color
>> >> only
>> >> > to a point, after which the default white takes over.
>> >> >
>> >> > Again, this is not a super big deal, but I find that
>> >> similar changes
>> >> > that OA made to Dolphin long ago grew on me.
>> >> >
>> >> > Bill
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
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