[UI] ToolBuilder

[Brad Fuller]

On Sun September 9 2007, Bill Schwab wrote:
> Jason,
>
> You are more of an expert than you think.  That said, I am a firm
> believer in having both graphical and programmatic builders.  If we
> offer only one, the other will be missed (or should be).  To the extent
> that we can save work as either code or serialized objects (ideally with
> a pluggable filer), I think we are better off than relying on the image
> for persistence.
>
> If we decide to build a clean windowing system from the ground up,
> that's fine with me.  It is a tall order, because we have to replace
> morphic and the IDE.  But with folks like Gary and Colin among us and on
> board with the idea, we should be able to get it done.  The result
> should be well worth the effort.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
> Wilhelm K. Schwab, Ph.D.
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> >>> jason.johnson.081 at gmail.com 09/09/07 11:53 AM >>>
>
> On 9/9/07, Bill Schwab <BSchwab at anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
> > Jason,
> >
> > I respectfully submit that you are indeed off base :)
>
> I can accept that, I'm by no means an export.  But where am I off
> base?  If I can't find that out I can't correct my misconceptions.
> What I read in your argument was basically "Morphic is what we have".
> That is valid, but if we are considering making the definitive UI for
> Squeak I think we need to get off to the right foot, or at least know
> what it is.
>
> Your point about wanting a builder is certainly valid, but we can have
> that for any View framework we build.  If Morphic isn't a fit lets at
> least plan to drop it for something that is.  I appreciate someone put
> a lot of work in coming up with Morphic and people have put in effort
> bringing it to Squeak, but the point of experimenting is to be able to
> say "well, it didn't work".

I think it would be fine if some group of people wanted to build MVP from the 
ground up. Why would it have to replace any existing model - e.g. MVC or 
Morphic?


>
> And I also agree about Tweak.
>
> Oh, and I'm up for doing what I can to build MVP from the ground up.
> I think it's the right thing to do.
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